Re: Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for NCLB?

[leoecasey@optonline.net]

If the criticism that your arguments are just are inverted form of what you have criticized is insubstantial, than what must be your original criticism?

Doctor, heal thyself.

----- Original Message -----

> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0500
> From: aburke5054@aol.com
> To: arn-l@interversity.org
> Subject: Re: Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for NCLB?
> Message-ID: <8C8E51874E68ED0-810-8725@FWM-D42.sysops.aol.com>
> 
> Well, if I'm right, I'm right. If you think I'm wrong, deal with 
> that, instead of just yelling
> "So are you" at me. 
> 
> Art
>   
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: leoecasey@optonline.net
> To: arn-l@interversity.org
> Sent: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [arn-l] Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for 
> NCLB? 
>  And you are the mirror image of this list, with every bit as 
> simple-minded a 
> 
> message as the one you claim to oppose -- just inverted. Which is 
> why you 
> 
> continue here day after day, week after week, month after month, 
> year after year 
> 
> -- while proclaiming "the horror, the horror." 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:21:22 -0500
> 
> > From: aburke5054@aol.com
> > To: arn-l@interversity.org
> > Subject: Re: Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for NCLB?
> > Message-ID: <8C8E455CE0FA0A9-884-C274@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com>
> 
> > 
> 
> > There is 
> 
> > nothing of an "orchestrated blame game" in the conference papers, 
> 
> > as should be clear to anyone who read them. They are in fact 
> quite 
> 
> > balanced and sober in their assessments both of the strengths and 
> 
> > of the weaknesses of NCLB and they don't blame parents and 
> teachers 
> 
> > at all. Many people on this list have such a schematized view of 
> 
> > the world that they say anything concerning public education that 
> 
> > comes under the cover of a conservative organization is part of a 
> 
> > plot to discredit public education (a "fascist" plot no less, 
> 
> > according to Schmidt, one of this list's resident fantasists. 
> 
> >  
> 
> > NCLB requires states to improve their schools until all their 
> 
> > children reach proficiency. The sad fact is that states are not 
> 
> > rushing in to make significant changes in their schools - for 
> many 
> 
> > reasons - they don't know what to do, they don't want to take 
> 
> > responsibility, they don't want to spend more money, and they 
> don't 
> 
> > want to rock any boats. Another sad fact is that many educators 
> do 
> 
> > not want changes because they have selfish interests in keeping 
> 
> > things just the way they are or changing them only to benefit 
> 
> > themselves. I believe that with so much misinformation, 
> 
> > disinformation, distortion, and deceit being spread about NCLB, a 
> 
> > good part of it spread by the public education establishment 
> 
> > itself, that Americans are probably pretty confused about it. 
> 
> > However, there is no evidence that the American people believe 
> that 
> 
> > public education is being "destroyed" and I believe they are 
> going 
> 
> > to scoff at people who say that schools are doing all kinds of 
> 
> > ridiculous things and it is en
> 
> > tirely the fault of NCLB. 
> 
> >  
> 
> >  This list has only one message: That the only problems in 
> 
> > American schools are that they don't receive enough money and 
> that 
> 
> > educational reform is driven by people who want to privatize 
> public 
> 
> > education. Continuing this absurdity is a disservice not only to 
> 
> > parents and children, particularly parents and children who would 
> 
> > benefit most from improvements to schools, but also to public 
> 
> > education itself. 
> 
> >  Art