Re: Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for NCLB?

["Joseph Bottini" <jpbottini@adelphia.net>]

Art, Leo "et al:"

 

Children, Children, discipline yourselves.

It is the season of good cheer and all that.

 

Interesting is the fact that I gain from each of your responses.

I truly see all sides; therefore I know the value of an eclectic approach.

 

May the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bring you a blessing during this 

time of celebrating the miracle of the birth of Jesus and the miracle of 

oil for the temple lamp lasting for eight days.

 

Also, let us experience the joy of Kwanza.

 

Peace,

Joe Bo

 

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From: arn-l-owner@interversity.org [mailto:arn-l-owner@interversity.org] On
Behalf Of aburke5054@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:53 PM
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Subject: Re: [arn-l] Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for NCLB?

 

Like I said, if I'm wrong show where I'm wrong instead of responding with
word games.  It's almost like you were stung by my comments on your "Will to
Ignorance" post and now you're retreating into a fantasy-land of
abstractions.

Art

  

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From: leoecasey@optonline.net
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [arn-l] Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for NCLB?

If the criticism that your arguments are just are inverted form of what you
have 






criticized is insubstantial, than what must be your original criticism?













Doctor, heal thyself.













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> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0500






> From: aburke5054@aol.com <mailto:aburke5054%40aol.com> 
> To: arn-l@interversity.org <mailto:arn-l%40interversity.org> 
> Subject: Re: Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for NCLB?
> Message-ID: <8C8E51874E68ED0-810-8725@FWM-D42.sysops.aol.com
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> 






> Well, if I'm right, I'm right. If you think I'm wrong, deal with 






> that, instead of just yelling






> "So are you" at me. 






> 






> Art






>   






>  -----Original Message-----






> From: leoecasey@optonline.net <mailto:leoecasey%40optonline.net> 
> To: arn-l@interversity.org <mailto:arn-l%40interversity.org> 
> Sent: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [arn-l] Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for 
> NCLB? 
>  And you are the mirror image of this list, with every bit as 
> simple-minded a 
> 
> message as the one you claim to oppose -- just inverted. Which is 
> why you 
> 
> continue here day after day, week after week, month after month, 
> year after year 
> 
> -- while proclaiming "the horror, the horror." 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:21:22 -0500
> 
> > From: aburke5054@aol.com <mailto:aburke5054%40aol.com> 
> > To: arn-l@interversity.org <mailto:arn-l%40interversity.org> 
> > Subject: Re: Orchestrated Blame Game Signals End Times for NCLB?
> > Message-ID: <8C8E455CE0FA0A9-884-C274@FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com
<mailto:8C8E455CE0FA0A9-884-C274%40FWM-D41.sysops.aol.com> >






> 






> > 






> 






> > There is 






> 






> > nothing of an "orchestrated blame game" in the conference papers, 






> 






> > as should be clear to anyone who read them. They are in fact 






> quite 






> 






> > balanced and sober in their assessments both of the strengths and 






> 






> > of the weaknesses of NCLB and they don't blame parents and 






> teachers 






> 






> > at all. Many people on this list have such a schematized view of 






> 






> > the world that they say anything concerning public education that 






> 






> > comes under the cover of a conservative organization is part of a 






> 






> > plot to discredit public education (a "fascist" plot no less, 






> 






> > according to Schmidt, one of this list's resident fantasists. 






> 






> >  






> 






> > NCLB requires states to improve their schools until all their 






> 






> > children reach proficiency. The sad fact is that states are not 






> 






> > rushing in to make significant changes in their schools - for 






> many 






> 






> > reasons - they don't know what to do, they don't want to take 






> 






> > responsibility, they don't want to spend more money, and they 






> don't 






> 






> > want to rock any boats. Another sad fact is that many educators 






> do 






> 






> > not want changes because they have selfish interests in keeping 






> 






> > things just the way they are or changing them only to benefit 






> 






> > themselves. I believe that with so much misinformation, 






> 






> > disinformation, distortion, and deceit being spread about NCLB, a 






> 






> > good part of it spread by the public education establishment 






> 






> > itself, that Americans are probably pretty confused about it. 






> 






> > However, there is no evidence that the American people believe 






> that 






> 






> > public education is being "destroyed" and I believe they are 






> going 






> 






> > to scoff at people who say that schools are doing all kinds of 






> 






> > ridiculous things and it is en






> 






> > tirely the fault of NCLB. 






> 






> >  






> 






> >  This list has only one message: That the only problems in 






> 






> > American schools are that they don't receive enough money and 






> that 






> 






> > educational reform is driven by people who want to privatize 






> public 






> 






> > education. Continuing this absurdity is a disservice not only to 






> 






> > parents and children, particularly parents and children who would 






> 






> > benefit most from improvements to schools, but also to public 






> 






> > education itself. 






> 






> >  Art













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