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Re: Fwd: Wall Street Journal Article on Ed
- Subject: Re: Fwd: Wall Street Journal Article on Ed
- From: Mike Kluznik <mkluznik@HOTMAIL.COM>
- Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:44:28 -0500
- Reply-to: Assessment Reform Network Mailing List <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
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Some believe in behavior mod and some don't. Again, parents are important,
but their importance has been overstated.
MK
From: "Jean M. Ward" <jmward@QWEST.NET>
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To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Wall Street Journal Article on Ed
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:18:09 -0800
From my own eyes, I have seen the vast difference between kids who have
involved parents and the kids who don't.
True, parent's influence diminishes as the child ages and peer pressure
takes over. Hopefully, we have instilled in them what is important to
help them make the proper choices. However, I also know that unless
"involved" parents don't push a reluctant child, they will fail. I am a
step-parent (came into the family when he was 14) who watched my
husband's son use school failure in jr. high & high school as a way to
"control" us in his adolescence. However, with consequences and his
aging, he was successful at earning a high school diploma (3 mos. late)
but a diploma none the less. And our high school requires a Senior
Project as a condition for graduating. He did it but it never would
have happened without "involved" parents.
That was the hardest 4 to 5 years in our new marriage. But we all
survived.
My husband's 13 yr. old (7th grade) is smart as a whip. Always has
been. But this year, which we were told to expect, school isn't so
important to him and his good grades started slipping the second
quarter. As "involved" parents, with consequences for his choices, we
are seeing improvements and we expect A's and B's this report card
(expected anytime now).
The point is, parents DO HAVE influence or whatever it's called.
Jean Ward
Mike Kluznik wrote:
>
> Jean,
> As far as my views on parenting go, see the book "The Nurture
Assumption" by
> Judith Rich Harris. Parents aren't as influential as conventional
wisdom
> says.
> Mike
>
> >From: "Jean M. Ward" <jmward@QWEST.NET>
> >Reply-To: Assessment Reform Network Mailing List <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
> >To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: Wall Street Journal Article on Ed
> >Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:28:49 -0800
> >
> >Mike,
> >
> >Hey, now THERE'S a novel idea!!! **BIG GRIN** Give merit pay to
> >parents. I'll second that.
> >
> >That reminds me of how I felt (as a parent) last summer. Our
elementary
> >school began a summer program called "Teacher in a Mailbox", to help
> >kids keep their brains active during the summer months. Becca was 2nd
> >going into 3rd grade. Strictly voluntary (we jumped at this) and were
> >given a reading textbook and handouts in reading, writing and math and
a
> >schedule and we sent in completed work periodically.
> >
> >For the kids who completed all 3 sessions (and boy was it a struggle as
> >is anything worthwhile), they got a giant chocolate bar and certificate
> >at their first assembly that next school year. Not that many kids
> >completed it. I remarked to the teacher heading this up that the
> >PARENTS should get the rewards, not only the kids! And the other
> >parents who saw it through (part of this whole exercise was a lesson in
> >keeping a committment) felt the same way! It turns out the parents got
a
> >certificate too.
> >
> >The summer was actually no different than it is all school year. I
> >guess I just felt it more having to keep at my daughter for 12 months.
> >It was good for her though and I don't think it put any more pressure
on
> >her than she made for herself.
> >
> >It pays off. Parental involvement. THAT's the TICKET!! Just wish the
> >ones in charge would realize that and quit blaming the teachers and put
> >accountability where it really SHOULD be.
> >
> >Jean Ward
> >Bonney Lake, WA
> >
> >WE WON'T WASL!
> >
> >Boycotting the 7th grade WASL this year
> >Boycotting the 4th grade WASL next year
> >
> >Mike Kluznik wrote:
> > >
> > > "Don't they understand that students' performance has everything to
do
> >with
> > > parental involvement"?
> > > Obviously, we ought to forget about the schools and give merit pay
to
> > > parents.
> > > MK
> > >
> > > >From: "Jean M. Ward" <jmward@QWEST.NET>
> > > >Reply-To: Assessment Reform Network Mailing List
<ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
> > > >To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU
> > > >Subject: Re: Fwd: Wall Street Journal Article on Ed
> > > >Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:20:33 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Mike,
> > > >
> > > ><<take steps toward linking teacher pay to student performance.>>
> > > >
> > > >This is one area that is all wrong! Don't they understand that
> > > >students' performance has everything to do with parental
involvement
> > > >???? It is wrong to link teacher pay to student performance ...
> > > >especially with high stakes tests! This will steer virtually every
> > > >teacher to DEFINITELY "teach to the test" (and ONLY those subjects)
> > > >because the high stakes test scores will be the ONE barometer that
will
> > > >drive it all.
> > > >
> > > >Lets see ... who wins in this scenario.
> > > >
> > > >1. The state gets bragging rights for how great their high stakes
test
> > > >is
> > > >2. The test scoring companies will rake in the dough (which they
> > > >already are)
> > > >3. The successful "teach to the test" teachers will get pay raises
and
> > > >keep their job
> > > >4. The principals and district administrators will get pay raises
and
> > > >keep their jobs
> > > >5. The "Practice Makes Perfect" pro-high stakes book authors will
rake
> > > >in the dough from their book sales
> > > >
> > > >Who loses ...
> > > >
> > > >1. The students who lose everything from lost curriculum to health
> > > >(both physical and mental)
> > > >2. The parents (including caregivers, etc.) who lose their
> >inquisitive,
> > > >LOVE SCHOOL, children
> > > >
> > > >Human lives ... what a price to pay ...
> > > >
> > > >Jean Ward
> > > >Bonney Lake, WA
> > > >
> > > >WE WON'T WASL!
> > > >
> > > >Boycotting the 7th grade WASL this year
> > > >Boycotting the 4th grade WASL next year
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Mike Kluznik wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: tdkluznik@uswest.net
> > > > > >Reply-To: tdkluznik@uswest.net
> > > > > >To: "Mike Kluznik" <mkluznik@hotmail.com>, " mike57"
> > > > > ><mike57@mymailstation.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Wall Street Journal Article on Ed
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:16:18 -0600
> > > > > >
> > > > > >From the January 31, 2001 issue of the Wall Street Journal,
> > > > > >Page A10.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Politics & Policy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Business Groups Push
> > > > > > Big Changes for Teachers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By JUNE KRONHOLZ
> > > > > > Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WASHINGTON -- Four leading business groups
> > > > > >called
> > > > > > for big changes in the way teachers are
> > > > > >trained, promoted,
> > > > > > treated and paid if public schools are to be
> > > > > >turned around.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Their report agrees with the education plans
> > > > > >announced
> > > > > > last week by President Bush and Capitol Hill
> > > > > >Democrats.
> > > > > > Those plans would require all teachers to
> > > > > >have at least a
> > > > > > minor in the courses they teach, would put
> > > > > >more money
> > > > > > into teacher training, and would take steps
> > > > > >toward linking
> > > > > > teacher pay to student performance.
> > > >
> > > >SNIP
> > > >
> > >
> >
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