Re: I want to cry

[Judie Hirsch <judih@OUSD.K12.CA.US>]

actually, the most important issue I see is one of class size, or
studnet/teacher ratio. Yesterday I visited a class that was more out of
control than anything I've seen in 33 years! seems as though they've had 10
different teachers and now have a sub who really doesn't even like them, so
they were expressing their disappointment in the system in a way that wasn't
very helpful. If there would have been more adults like me (except that I
was only visiting) in the room, I think we could have helped them regain
their sense of themselves as learners.
Judi
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Steinbok <aardvark69@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: I want to cry


> Argg... Are we arguing for LARGE schools now? I was hoping this is NOT
> where we were going with the school size argument. There is no reason to
> debate small schools vs. large schools--size is only one variable, and
> NOT one of the most important ones at that. There are MANY arguments for
> small schools, but they can be easily trumped by other arguments that
> consider several other factors more important. Can we stop arguing
> whether small schools or large schools are good or bad?
>
> For myself, although I stated that most small-school advocates are full
> of HS, I certainly did not imply that the opposite argument is any more
> true--large-school advocates will have just as many holes. Small schools
> can be good and bad. Large schools can be good and bad. It's not size
> that matters.
>
> Nuf said?
>
>         VS-)
>
> Judi Hirsch wrote:
> >
> > you cay: The only benefit you get with a small school that
> > you do not with a large is time per student
> > and I would like to comment. I spent the past 15 years at a very small
k-12
> > school (280 students) and am now at a regular large high school. The
> > differences are enormous. Here are a few:
> > 1. everybody knew everyone
> > 2. no gangs
> > 3. no fights
> > 4. no bureaucracy
> > 5. parents felt welcome
> > 6. no permission needed for most things
> > 7. most needs got met right away
> > 8. easy access to everyone
> > 9. peerness--since we all did everything, we were all pretty much on the
> > same plane
> > 10. lots of student support--if a child needed attention they could get
it
> > right away, including a place to sleep, breakfast, clothing, etc.
> > 11. lots of love--we were a family and someone was always there with a
hug
> > nuf said
>
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