Re: query

[AazZ <llon@MEDIAONE.NET>]

Hello,

I saw the post (way below) by George Cunningham, and thought I'd help set
the record straight.

Gore did not flunk out of law school but left it (after a half-hearted
effort, admittedly) to run for Congress. Bush and Gore's actual SAT scores
(for whatever little that's worth) are noted below.

LLon King
Los Angeles Sr. High School

(This is taken from one of many similar souces that did fact checking on
campaign charges and boasts by both Republicans and the Democrats during the
recent election.)

>
> FICTION: While running for office, Gore's campaign literature
> claimed he was a "Brilliant Student".
>
> FACT: Washington newspapers said he barely passed Harvard and
> consistently earned D's and C's.

REAL FACT:

"Consistent" bad grades at Harvard:

        The article they refer to is:

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37397-2000Mar18.html

Gore flubbed his Freshman and Sophomore years - worse even than Bush - but
rebounded in his Junior and Senior years with a top-of-the-class
performance.

Here is a quote from the same article the email cites:

"Gore arrived at Harvard with an impressive 1355 SAT score, 625 verbal
and 730 math, compared with Bush's 1206 total from 566 verbal and 640 math.
In his sophomore year at Harvard, Gore's grades were lower than any semester
recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale.  That was they year Gore's
classmates
remember him spending a notable amount of time in the Dunster House basement
lounge shooting pool, watching television, eating hamburgers, and
occasionally
smoking marijuana.  His grades temporarily reflected his mildly experimental
mood, and alarmed his parents.  He received one D, one C-, two C's, two
C pluses, one B-minus, an effort that placed him in the lower fifth of the
class for the second year in a row."

Later on, that article writes:

"In his junior year, he earned a B, a B plus, an A minus in three
government courses, and he aced his senior government thesis on the
impact of television on the presidency, a strong finish that made him
a Cum Laude graduate.  His devotion to the subject by then
was so intense that he gave much of his time to a not-for-credit
seminar with his favorite professor, Richard Neustadt,
an expert on the presidency.  Bush, a history major, scored mostly B's
in that subject, as was first reported in the New Yorker, though the
five history courses he took his senior year were all pass-fail."

"After serving in the military for two years, Gore returned to
graduate school late in the summer of 1971, first taking religious
studies courses at Vanderbilt and then entering the university's law
school.  His efforts in both instances were incomplete, reflecting the
uncertainty he felt during that period about what he should do with
his life.  He had considered everything from writing to police work."

"He took the religious studies courses while also working full time as
a journalist at the Nashville Tennessean, and after getting off to a
strong start with an A-minus in Ethics, he failed to complete any of
the three courses he took in the fall of 1971, and those incompletes
eventually lapsed into F's,  he returned for another semester in the
spring of 1972, when two more incompletes turned into F's.  Two years
later, he enrolled in law school and spent three semesters there
taking heavy course loads while still working at the newspaper.  He
performed satisfactorily with a high grade of 81 in Legal Writing and
a Low Grade of 69 in Civil Procedures II.  Partway through the
semester in 1976, he decided to run for an open seat in Tennessee's
3rd Congressional District."

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> FICTION: Gore claims an extensive knowledge of law as a result of
> his extensive study at law school.
>
> FACT: Al Gore dropped out of law school.

REAL FACT:
Law School:

He did claim extensive knowledge of the law, yet he did leave
school early to run for Congress when an old incumbent retired
from office early.  But I'm not sure where the "Fiction" is?

|Susan,
|
|His SAT score are in the 600s.  He got an MBA from Harvard and that is a
|tough program.  On the other hand Gore flunked out of law school.
|
|George K. Cunningham
|University of Louisville
|
|> -----Original Message-----
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|> [mailto:ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU]On Behalf Of Susan Harman
|> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:08 PM
|> To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU
|> Subject: Re: query
|>
|>
|> Anybody know what Dubyas scores were?
|>
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