Re: Request for Help

[Margaret Davis <margd@FLASH.NET>]

Sounds like an open records request to me <smiling>

believe me i'm starting to wonder why the hell i live here.

Margaret
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Humes-Schulz" <humes-schulz@ATTBI.COM>
To: <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Request for Help


> Just out of curiosity, what % of parents give their approval?  and what is
> the form of approval?  can you whack kids of all ages?  and for what
> offenses?  well, my husband is right.  I am bloody naive.
>
> And I am learning to appreciate my school-- warts and all -- a whole lot
> more. For punishment kids are "talked to" at our high school, we don't
even
> have in school suspension.  Sure,  kids have been suspended, but that's
> really a last step and reserved for the most egregious offenses.  I don't
> even think anyone was suspended when they turned a chicken loose in the
> halls (actually, they got a big time lecture on animal abuse....remember,
> this is Oregon).  Or when they plunked a motorless car on the patio in
front
> of the entrance to the school.  Fighting, violence, and harrassment, tho,
> will get you thrown out -- as it should be.
>
> I guess we have pretty good kids...maybe because they are treated with a
> little bit more respect. Kids at the school organized a city-wide rally
last
> week protesting school budget cuts.  Got themselves a parade permit,
police
> escort, paid for the liability insurance themselves, paid for the sound
> system and park fees themselves.  1000+ people came, included the elected
> officials.  Major press coverage including the New York Times.  Kids even
> had advance meetings with the press.  It was organized in the schools,
> during lunch time meetings, email played a big role. Teachers were
advisors
> only.
>
> Kids even cut classes to organize the rally.  Guess we shouldda smacked
> them.  Instead, we congratulated them on a fine showing.  The press
credited
> them with showing more leadership than the adults.
>
> k
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Assessment Reform Network Mailing List
> [mailto:ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU]On Behalf Of Carol Holst
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:53 PM
> To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Request for Help
>
>
> It's illegal without parental consent. In this case it was illegal,
> period.
>
> I guess I fight the testing because corporal punishment at school wasn't
> an issue with my child. High-stakes testing was though, and emotional
> abuse is just as bad, if not worse.
>
> Ugh.
>
> Humes-Schulz wrote:
> >
> > I am simply stunned.  My husband thinks I am the most naive person in
the
> > universe, but it never dawned on me that there was a single state in the
> > union in which it's okay to hit kids in schools.  More wrinkles on the
> Texas
> > miracle -- I understand the Alvin wars better.  On the Texas listserv
was
> a
> > note from a senior who was paddled -- paddling an 18 year old?  These
are
> > the adult role models in Texas?
> >
> > Holy cow (I am learning to cenosr myself in preparation for joining
> > TexasTeachersNet)!  Why aren't you guys fighting this?  I'd let a school
> > test my kid before they could touch my kid.
> >
> > Forever dumbfounded,
> >
> > Kathie (who has never hit anyone....yet)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Assessment Reform Network Mailing List
> > [mailto:ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU]On Behalf Of Carol Holst
> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 9:02 PM
> > To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Request for Help
> >
> > I wish I could tell you that you misunderstood.
> >
> > Humes-Schulz wrote:
> > >
> > > Carol:
> > >
> > > I just spent some time reading these...a very depressing picture
indeed.
> > > One teacher referred to "CP" in the classroom.  Corporal punishment?
> It's
> > > okay to hit kids in the classroom?  Please tell me I misunderstood.
> > >
> > > Kathie
>
>
> --
> See you at The Soapbox!
>
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