Re: is education political? ....and a personal note

["Robert E. Bowd" <bbowd@INTERLOG.COM>]

Bill Deming is probably turning over in his grave if he knows some of the
things that have been done to employees in the name of TQM, CQI...  He did
believe in quality circles and employee empowerment, as I recall, as a way
of increasing the value-added in an organization.  It may be a little
cynical, but I think the outcome has really been about micromanaging the
behaviour of employees, and identifying potential dissidence, for greater
social control.  He was an engineer, [efficiency expert]
 after all, and probably no friend of the democratic sensibilities displayed
in this forum.  It is probably worth teasing out the links between TQM and
the quality education network that spawned accountability, performativity,
and high stakes testing.

Regards,
Bob Bowd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandra" <sandy821@LAVA.NET>
To: <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: is education political? ....and a personal note


> Yes the gradual process of change (transformation) is better. Deming is
the
> TQM guy and his principles apply to any organization. The Japanese used
> Deming's principles after they were rejected here in the US. Now they are
> being imported back into the US via Japan.
> Sandy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judi Hirsch <judih@OUSD.K12.CA.US>
> To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
> Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 2:55 PM
> Subject: Re: is education political? ....and a personal note
>
>
> >Is Deming the TQM guy? Isn't he associated with business? anyway, I'm not
> >sure if I am understanding your message correctly...are you saying that
> >transformation is too fast? and that a gradual process of change is
better?
> >notice I didn't say revolution but transformation which to me implies a
> >slower approach. also, I didn't understand what you meant by the part
about
> >Japan. can you elucidate?
> >thanks
> >Judi
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Sandra <sandy821@LAVA.NET>
> >To: <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
> >Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 7:26 AM
> >Subject: Re: is education political? ....and a personal note
> >
> >
> >> Judy,
> >> "and teaching students to transform the world is also a
> >> >political act, because both have to do with the allocation of power."
> >> This statement may be true in western thought. My recent experience in
> >Asian
> >> cultures has shown me that the gradual process of change is possible.
> >> Deming's process had to be implemented in Japan and imported to the US.
> >> Education must become global not political.
> >> Sandra
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Judi Hirsch <judih@OUSD.K12.CA.US>
> >> To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
> >> Date: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:08 AM
> >> Subject: is education political? ....and a personal note
> >>
> >>
> >> >anyone who is in doubt about the nature of education should read "The
> >> >Politics of Education" by Paulo Freire. Basically he says that
> supporting
> >> >the status quo--i.e. by unquestioningly teaching the standard
> >> curriculum--is
> >> >a political act; >by the way, my e-mail wasn't working properly for
the
> >> past two weeks, so if
> >> >there's anything anyone thinks I should read that perhaps was bounced
> >back
> >> >to them as "undeliverable" please send again.
> >> >thanks
> >> >Judi
> >> >
> >>
>
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