Re: MCLB "Anniversary?" Millions of children left

["Art Burke" <aburke@vansd.org>]

Karen ... The idea is that the money pays for services for kids - if the
money is not buying value in one setting (like, say, public school x)
then it can follow the kids to other settings (like tutoring, other
public schools, etc.).  That's ultimately where the acountability "bite"
is.

Art

>>> kvscanty@pacbell.net 01/09/03 10:01AM >>>
Art,

I'm confused or maybe just don't understand the NCLB as well as I
should
but if schools are expected to follow the regulations that have been
developed in the Department of Ed in order to receive money from the
feds and AYP was set up to make certain that schools meet those goals,
then are you saying that there is no authority to take money away from
schools that don't reach AYP for two years?  That's really hard for me
to get my arms around because then why should states go through all
the
hoops required by NCLB if there are no "real consequences" - like
losing
money?  Doesn't sound like the "accountability" folks to me.

Thanks

karen

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There is no provision for taking away money for not making AYP under
NCLB, if that is what you are talking about. 

Translating "community buy-in and support" into adequate funding is a
political problem.  Work the politics.

Art

>>> kvscanty@pacbell.net 01/08/03 06:35PM >>>
Art,

And when the feds take away the money?  What then?  That of course
assumes that for some reason, the schools don't make AYP so that even
if
the community buys in and supports the schools regardless of the test
scores and so won't request a move to another school, where will the
resources come from to continue the good work they're doing?

Just a question....

Karen

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Subject: Re: [arn-l] MCLB "Anniversary?" Millions of children left

Not so sure about that.  I visited two elementary and two middle
schools.  All of them have taken special care, by different means, to
help kids feel part of the school community.  Might carry over no
matter
what the scores are.  Hope so.

Art

>>> gbracey@erols.com 01/08/03 01:26PM >>>
Art,

Of course, if test scores don't go up, the kids will go away.  Or at
least
have the option to.  No one I no of is attempting to deal with this
issue of
pupil mobility.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Burke" <aburke@vansd.org>
To: <arn-l@interversity.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [arn-l] MCLB "Anniversary?" Millions of children left


> I have just completed a round of visits to four Vancouver schools
that
> are implementing new approaches to helping struggling students. 
While
> the changes grow to some degree out of programs already underway,
the
> sole impetus for the extra attention to the needs of struggling
students
> is NCLB.  The universal feeling in the four schools is that things
are
> better now for struggling students than they were before and they
will
> get even better as time goes on.  I suspect that there are many
schools
> across the land that are doing many of the same things with the same
> degree of optimism. Whether these efforts and optimism will bear the
> fruit of higher test scores is another matter.  But even if test
scores
> don't go up and even if NCLB goes away, staying the course I saw in
our
> schools will clearly help a lot of kids.
>
> Art
> _____________
>
> >>> ShopMathEdu@aol.com 01/08/03 11:51AM >>>
> Dear ARN Folks:
>
> They are calling this the first "anniversary" of the NCLB (aka:
> MCLB....millions of children left behind) act.
>
> How can the one year mark of such an inhumane piece of legislation
be
> called
> an anniversary?
>
> Is there to cause to celebrate the one year mark since the
educational
>
> equivalent of martial law has been declared against students,
teachers,
> and
> curriculum?
>
> For me, this day is more like a yarzheit, the Jewish tradition of
> marking the
> first year since the death of dear one.
>
> The NCLB leaves millions of children behind.  When children are left
> behind,
> their educational careers, inquisitiveness and enthusiasm for life
> becomes
> derailed.  Without education, people are doomed to a lifetime of
> servitude,
> uncertainty, insecurity and an early death.
>
> For me, this is a yarzheit, where we pause to reflect on the many
> wasted
> lives which NCLB will impose upon this land.  This is a tragic day
of
> mourning for our community; a mourning for lives which have been
lost,
> and
> for lives which shall be lost.
>
> We have seen the results of NCLB-esque practices here in Birmingham,
> and they
> are devastating.  Young people pushed out of school to raise test
> scores.
> Teachers and administrators acting like guards and wardens instead
of
> student
> advocates.
>
> We have seen the blood stained sidewalks, and the fresh dirt
shoveled
> onto a
> cement vault, containing a casket, which contains the cold body of a
> young
> person who sincerely believed they didn't have a future and whose
> dreams were
> deferred....deferred....and deferred once too many times.
>
> Please keep NCLB far far away from our students, our schools, and
our
> land.
>
> Thank you, ARN folks, for all that you do to defend students and
> education.
>
> Warmest peacebuilding greetings,
>
> Steve Orel
> Birmingham, Alabama
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