Re: the education trust's disinformation campaign

[aburke5054@aol.com]

There are more horses-asses in the world than horses.  Art

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Gerson <jackrgerson@gmail.com>
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Sent: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign


You can lead a horse to reasons but you can't make him think.


On 7/22/07, aburke5054@aol.com <aburke5054@aol.com> wrote:

>

> Yes, the argument that NCLB is a stalking-horse for vouchers because

> vouchers are not in NCLB even though some people are for them is a

> silly one.

>

> Art

>

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> From: GERALD BRACEY <gbracey1@verizon.net>

> To: arn-l@interversity.org

> Sent: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 9:49 am

> Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign

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>

> Art,

>

>

> Re, "Arguments that NCLB is a...stalking horse for vouchers...are so

> far out

> that they play only in propaganda outlets like this one."

>

>

> Well, er, ah, in the original legislation voucher provisions existed.

> They

> came into play after a school failed to make AYP for 3 years.  
Kennedy

> balked.  Bush compromised and took SES instead, but John Boehner 
tried

> to

> reinsert vouchers on six separate occasions.

>

>

> After a voucher-less NCLB passed, Bush introduced a voucher program 
for

> a

> half-dozen cities.  The Dems rejected this.  Bush limited his voucher

> efforts to DC and Dems rejected that four times, even though Dianne

> Feinstein switched her vote (saying she would NEVER vote for vouchers

> in

> California).  The DC voucher program passed only after Bush 
operatives

> attached it to a $378 billion omnibus spending bill which, if 
rejected,

> would have shut down government a la Newt Gingrich and they knew how

> THAT

> played out.

>

>

> I think it's a stalking horse for vouchers?  Silly me.

>

>

> JB

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>

>

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> To: <arn-l@interversity.org>

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> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:20 PM

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> Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign

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> > -----Original Message-----

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> >

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> > From: GERALD BRACEY <gbracey1@verizon.net>

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> >

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> > To: arn-l@interversity.org

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> > Sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:23 am

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> > Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign

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> >

>

> > Art,

>

> >

>

> > You can listen to the show at www.wbur.org.  Do it.

>

> >

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> > _________________________________________________

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> >

>

> > I tried, but 20 minutes of nothing was all I could take.  You have

> too

> > much time on your hands.  American public education works much 
better

> for

> > some children than for others.  Getting it to work better for all

> children

> > is a great reason to have NCLB, or something similar, with or 
without

> > considering how well American kids are stacking up in international

> > comparisons.  Devoting yourself to nailing careless talk by the

> Secretary

> > about "grade levels," or correcting misstatements about 
international

> > comparisons, is setting your sights too low.  Arguments that NCLB 
is

> an

> > attack on teachers, or a stalking horse for vouchers, or the first

> step in

> > privatizing the public schools, or that it's DIBELizing education 
are

> so

> > far out that they play only in propaganda outlets like this one.

> It's

> > over for all that stuff.  Get down to the real work of how to make

> the

> > schools better for all kids.  The sad fact is that resistance to

> doing so

> > comes from inside public education and that is another great reason

> to

> > have NCLB.

>

> >

>

> > Art

>

> >

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