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The only reason I can think of is that they want to demonstrate the proof of the nonequivalence of the sets of horses and horses-asses.

In any event, you've gone from yawning to burping back to yawning. I suppose next you'll be farting. But I hope you'll save that for a more appropriate forum, like Teacher Ken's session at daily kos or the FairTest annual meeting, Art

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So why do people keep trying? Yawn...


Priscilla Gutierrez

Outreach Specialist

New Mexico School for the Deaf


...change is inevitable, growth is optional...


>From: "Jack Gerson" <jackrgerson@gmail.com>

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:49:59 -0700



You can lead a horse to reasons but you can't make him think.



On 7/22/07, aburke5054@aol.com <aburke5054@aol.com> wrote:



Yes, the argument that NCLB is a stalking-horse for vouchers because

vouchers are not in NCLB even though some people are for them is a

silly one.



Art



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Sent: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 9:49 am

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Art,





Re, "Arguments that NCLB is a...stalking horse for vouchers...are so

far out

that they play only in propaganda outlets like this one."





Well, er, ah, in the original legislation voucher provisions existed.

They

came into play after a school failed to make AYP for 3 years.
Kennedy

balked. Bush compromised and took SES instead, but John Boehner
tried

to

reinsert vouchers on six separate occasions.





After a voucher-less NCLB passed, Bush introduced a voucher program
for

a

half-dozen cities. The Dems rejected this. Bush limited his voucher

efforts to DC and Dems rejected that four times, even though Dianne

Feinstein switched her vote (saying she would NEVER vote for vouchers

in

California). The DC voucher program passed only after Bush
operatives

attached it to a $378 billion omnibus spending bill which, if
rejected,

would have shut down government a la Newt Gingrich and they knew how

THAT

played out.





I think it's a stalking horse for vouchers? Silly me.





JB









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> From: GERALD BRACEY <gbracey1@verizon.net>



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> To: arn-l@interversity.org



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>



> Art,



>



> You can listen to the show at www.wbur.org. Do it.



>



> _________________________________________________



>



> I tried, but 20 minutes of nothing was all I could take. You have

too

> much time on your hands. American public education works much
better

for

> some children than for others. Getting it to work better for all

children

> is a great reason to have NCLB, or something similar, with or
without

> considering how well American kids are stacking up in
international

> comparisons. Devoting yourself to nailing careless talk by the

Secretary

> about "grade levels," or correcting misstatements about
international

> comparisons, is setting your sights too low. Arguments that NCLB
is

an

> attack on teachers, or a stalking horse for vouchers, or the first

step in

> privatizing the public schools, or that it's DIBELizing education
are

so

> far out that they play only in propaganda outlets like this one.

It's

> over for all that stuff. Get down to the real work of how to make

the

> schools better for all kids. The sad fact is that resistance to

doing so

> comes from inside public education and that is another great
reason

to

> have NCLB.



>



> Art



>

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