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[Author Prev][Author Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Author Index][Thread Index] Re: the education trust's disinformation campaign
Why you think your bodily functions are of interest on a list purportedly devoted to educational assessment is beyond me, but then this list is one constant stream of surprises. Art -----Original Message----- From: PRISCILLA GUTIERREZ <pgutpgut@msn.com> To: arn-l@interversity.org Sent: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 6:21 pm Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign You need to pay more attention. Previously you made me vomit, not burp. Now I am back to yawning at your drivel... Time to end this discussion - don't have much time to waste and you are the consummate waste of time on this listserve. Yawn... Priscilla Gutierrez Outreach Specialist New Mexico School for the Deaf ...change is inevitable, growth is optional... From: aburke5054@aol.com Reply-To: arn-l@interversity.org To: arn-l@interversity.org Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:58:11 -0400 The only reason I can think of is that they want to demonstrate theproof of the nonequivalence of the sets of horses and horses-asses. In any event, you've gone from yawning to burping back to yawning. I suppose next you'll be farting. But I hope you'll save that for amore appropriate forum, like Teacher Ken's session at daily kos or theFairTest annual meeting, Art -----Original Message----- From: PRISCILA GUTIERREZ <pgutpgut@msn.com> To: arn-l@interversity.org Sent: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 7:34 pm Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign So why do people keep trying? Yawn... Priscilla Gutierrez Outreach Specialist New Mexico School for the Deaf ...change is inevitable, growth is optional... >From: "Jack Gerson" <jackrgerson@gmail.com> Reply-To: arn-l@interversity.org To: arn-l@interversity.org Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:49:59 -0700 You can lead a horse to reasons but you can't make him think. On 7/22/07, aburke5054@aol.com <aburke5054@aol.com> wrote: Yes, the argument that NCLB is a stalking-horse for vouchers because vouchers are not in NCLB even though some people are for them is a silly one. Art -----Original Message----- From: GERALD BRACEY <gbracey1@verizon.net> To: arn-l@interversity.org Sent: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 9:49 am Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign Art, Re, "Arguments that NCLB is a...stalking horse for vouchers...are so far out that they play only in propaganda outlets like this one." existed.Well, er, ah, in the original legislation voucher provisions They came into play after a school failed to make AYP for 3 years. Kennedy balked. Bush compromised and took SES instead, but John Boehner tried to reinsert vouchers on six separate occasions. After a voucher-less NCLB passed, Bush introduced a voucher program for a voucherhalf-dozen cities. The Dems rejected this. Bush limited his efforts to DC and Dems rejected that four times, even though Dianne vouchersFeinstein switched her vote (saying she would NEVER vote for in California). The DC voucher program passed only after Bush operatives attached it to a $378 billion omnibus spending bill which, if rejected, would have shut down government a la Newt Gingrich and they knew how THAT played out. I think it's a stalking horse for vouchers? Silly me. JB ----- Original Message ----- From: <aburke5054@aol.com> To: <arn-l@interversity.org> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation campaign > > -----Original Message----- > > From: GERALD BRACEY <gbracey1@verizon.net> > > To: arn-l@interversity.org > Sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:23 am campaign> Subject: Re: [arn-l] the education trust's disinformation > > > Art, > > You can listen to the show at www.wbur.org. Do it. > > _________________________________________________ > have> I tried, but 20 minutes of nothing was all I could take. You too > much time on your hands. American public education works much better for > some children than for others. Getting it to work better for all children > is a great reason to have NCLB, or something similar, with or without > considering how well American kids are stacking up in international > comparisons. Devoting yourself to nailing careless talk by the Secretary > about "grade levels," or correcting misstatements about international > comparisons, is setting your sights too low. Arguments that NCLB is an first> attack on teachers, or a stalking horse for vouchers, or the step in > privatizing the public schools, or that it's DIBELizing education are so > far out that they play only in propaganda outlets like this one. It's make> over for all that stuff. Get down to the real work of how to the > schools better for all kids. The sad fact is that resistance to doing so > comes from inside public education and that is another great reason to > have NCLB. > > Art > _______________________________________________________________________ _ what's> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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