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Re: Fw: [eddra] C-Span Program (Fighting Back)
Do you really believe that if NCLB had the horrible effects you say it
has and that if it really were a tool to discredit and privatize public
education, the nation's leading newspapers would not have caught on, so
much of the nation's civil rights establishment would not have caught
on, so many African-American and Hispanic parents would be supporting
it, and George Miller and Ted Kennedy would be supporting it? I find
this totally incredible.
Art
-----Original Message-----
From: Tauna Rogers <taunar@plateautel.net>
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:29 am
Subject: Re: [arn-l] Fw: [eddra] C-Span Program (Fighting Back)
I could only stomach it in small doses. I listened to just a bit of
Hanushek, all of what Ladd said, and nothing from Bennett. I noticed ED
in
'08 was behind the fear mongering event.
How can we fight back and get some media coverage of our own to expose
the
myths and propoganda they are perpetuating? The massive scapegoating
and
efforts to undermine support for public education? As the election
nears, we
can expect much more of this ED in '08 funded (choose your naughty
word).
And of course it isn't just ED in '08.
Maybe I'm naive and please forgive me if the following is presumptuous
of me
but I just want to put something out there to kick around. I noticed
C-Span
accepts suggestions for events to cover. There are any number of
organizations and individuals seeking to save and strengthen public
education and democracy. A number of you on arn and eddra alone are
experts,
more than qualified to debunk and expose the propaganda. A lot could be
exposed about NCLB too.Would it be practicable to unite, pool
resources, and
organize an event for coverage?
If I'm being stupid here, let me down easy!
Tauna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monty Neill" <monty@fairtest.org>
To: <arn-l@interversity.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [arn-l] Fw: [eddra] C-Span Program
not mine - I won't watch it either - was Solomon's critique. Be well,
Monty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Horace B Lucido" <hbl04@csufresno.edu>
To: <arn-l@interversity.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [arn-l] Fw: [eddra] C-Span Program
Monty,
Watch this program? Why get sick on such a nice day? I would much
rather
read your take....at least I got a good laugh out of that. Your
honest
appraisal is enough for me.
Rog
Rog ( Horace ) Lucido, Physics Instructor, Ret.
Program Evaluator
Adjunct Faculty, Fresno Pacific University
Educational Consultant
Educators and Parents Against Testing Abuse ( EPATA )
Assessment Reform Network Central Valley Coordinator
Phone: 559-277-1312
Cell: 559-355-4215
email: lucid4@cvip.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Monty Neill <monty@fairtest.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:47 am
Subject: [arn-l] Fw: [eddra] C-Span Program
To: ARN-L <arn-l@interversity.org>, arn2-strategy
<arn2-strategy@yahoogroups.com>, ndsgroup@yahoogroups.com
----- Original Message -----
From: mbsolomon@aol.com
To: eddra@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:11 PM
Subject: [eddra] C-Span Program
In case you missed it, C-Span aired a 4-hour program on the
Economic Implications of the Crisis in American Education
Notice that the title tells you that it was not intended to be an
analytical discussion, but instead to try to explain why American
education is broken.
Unbelievably, they chose Bill Bennett, the great educational
bloviator and Eric Hanushek, the thin-air economist to help bash
public education.
You can watch the entire 4 hours below, but I want to simply,
quickly, point out how inane some of this stuff is. Hanushek, for
example thinks that if there is a correlation between two
variables, it proves cause and effect---and he gets to choose
which variable is the cause and which is the effect. He offered
the vacuous proposition that if the U.S. schools could improve
test scores by a small amount, it would raise the gross national
product such that it would pay for all of education in America
(at 2:20). He further told his audience that if the schools could
get rid of the worst 10% (as I recall) of teachers, U.S. students
would be near the top in international tests.
Of course, Bill Bennett gives rise to projectile vomiting, so you
should skip his blathering from 1:31 to 2:05. The bright light of
the entire show was Helen Ladd from Duke University who brought
some light into a reasonably dark day.
The program can be seen at:
rtsp://video1.c-span.org/15days/e062708_education.rm
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