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Re: Fw: [eddra] C-Span Program



not mine - I won't watch it either - was Solomon's critique. Be well, Monty
----- Original Message ----- From: "Horace B Lucido" <hbl04@csufresno.edu>
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Monty,
Watch this program? Why get sick on such a nice day? I would much rather read your take....at least I got a good laugh out of that. Your honest appraisal is enough for me.
Rog

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----- Original Message ----- From: Monty Neill <monty@fairtest.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:47 am
Subject: [arn-l] Fw: [eddra] C-Span Program
To: ARN-L <arn-l@interversity.org>, arn2-strategy <arn2-strategy@yahoogroups.com>, ndsgroup@yahoogroups.com


----- Original Message ----- From: mbsolomon@aol.com
To: eddra@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:11 PM
Subject: [eddra] C-Span Program



In case you missed it, C-Span aired a 4-hour program on the
Economic Implications of the Crisis in American Education

Notice that the title tells you that it was not intended to be an
analytical discussion, but instead to try to explain why American
education is broken.

Unbelievably, they chose Bill Bennett, the great educational
bloviator and Eric Hanushek, the thin-air economist to help bash
public education.

You can watch the entire 4 hours below, but I want to simply,
quickly, point out how inane some of this stuff is. Hanushek, for
example thinks that if there is a correlation between two
variables, it proves cause and effect---and he gets to choose
which variable is the cause and which is the effect. He offered
the vacuous proposition that if the U.S. schools could improve
test scores by a small amount, it would raise the gross national
product such that it would pay for all of education in America
(at 2:20). He further told his audience that if the schools could
get rid of the worst 10% (as I recall) of teachers, U.S. students
would be near the top in international tests.

Of course, Bill Bennett gives rise to projectile vomiting, so you
should skip his blathering from 1:31 to 2:05. The bright light of
the entire show was Helen Ladd from Duke University who brought
some light into a reasonably dark day.

The program can be seen at:

rtsp://video1.c-span.org/15days/e062708_education.rm





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