Re: GED is about grade 6?

[Judi Hirsch <judih@OUSD.K12.CA.US>]

can someone PLEASE explain what these scores mean.
Judi
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Arthur Hu 
  To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:30 AM
  Subject: Re: GED is about grade 6?


  You missed the punch line. These are the final grade level results:
   
  GLE and Content analysis for NYTimes Front Page 7June00
  by Rick Parkany
  http://www.borg.com/~rparkany/Resources/NYTimesGLE.htm
  Articles came out average
  Fliech 12.3
  Colman-liau 12.37 
  Bomuth 10.70
  Fleish Kincaid 11.07

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rick Parkany [mailto:rparkany@BORG.COM]
    Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:37 AM
    To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU
    Subject: Re: GED is about grade 6?


    Bob:        though you missed my point, in my reply to Art last evening, I concede that the NYTimes reading level as *7th grade level* IS an urban legend (and not a canard on my part). Indeed, Bob, your anecdotal rule of thumb assessment was right on the money, as well... 
    To begin my penance, accordingly, I have supplied the following analysis based upon sifting the 3 main articles from the NYTimes late edition today into Lotus Millennium's WordPro. Here are the results (limited though they are to 3 articles on one day--a representative, yet statistically insignificant sampling, I concede), I hope this helps, and as a penance, it's got to be better than having had my tongue cut out or my fingers lopped off! 

    Keep well...    ;-} rap. 
    GOTO : 
     NYTimesGLE : 
    http://www.borg.com/~rparkany/Resources/NYTimesGLE.htm 

     (NOTE: Art1: Mideast Talks Are to Reopen Next Week in the U.S. By DEBORAH SONTAG ; Art2: Corzine Defeats Florio for Senate Nomination By DAVID M. HALBFINGER; Art3: Millions Facing Rise in Rates on AT&T Calls By STEPHEN LABATON) 

    Bob Schaeffer wrote: 

      Rick Parkany wrote: 
      > 
      > Well, Art: *New*? the NYTimes used to be pegged @ *7th grade level* for 
      > reading, as per content and form analysis. What does THIS tell you about 
      > norms. But, then again, what, exactly, DO norms tell us, beyond how clever our 
      > proxies for reality and the true stuff of the educational experience are? 
      Rick and others: 
         I've seen the statement that the NYTimes is written/edited at a "7th 
      grade level" on this listserv several times and believe the claim is a 
      canard or, perhaps, an urban (newspaper) legend. 
       ...SNIP...

         Does anyone have any hard evidence (i.e. a citeable source) to 
      support or dispute the reading level claim? I may just run MS Word's 
      grammar checker -- which includes several readability measures -- on 
      some sample NYTimes articles to see what college dropout Bill Gates says 
      on this matter. 
      Bob Schaeffer, Public Education Director 
      FairTest: National Center for Fair & Open Testing 

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