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Re: General Observation


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  • Subject: Re: General Observation
  • From: "Horn, James" <jhorn@monmouth.edu>
  • Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:19:34 -0400
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  • Thread-topic: [arn-l] General Observation

I agree. Keeping Burke around eliminates the need for any nuanced discussion of policy, assessment, curriculum or anything else. He is a dependable and easy foil, pinata, and shameless idiot fool all rolled into one. For those who engage him, it offers a semblance of moving a point forward, when, in fact, any possible movement has been blocked by an unremitting refusal to even see the beginning point. You are right, Scott--this would be a very different list if he were booted, a fate he has earned many times over.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: arn-l-owner@interversity.org on behalf of Scott Hays
Sent: Tue 6/6/2006 7:24 AM
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Subject: [arn-l] General Observation

Pardon me for intruding on an excellent explication of the position
of the NAACP in regards to its concerns for the best possible
education for the children of this country, and the reminder that
some of the fundamental goals of NCLB are honorable (even if
implementation and enforcement may not be so noble), but as I reflect
on this (and other) discussions on this list, I cannot help but make
a couple of more generalized observations. Disregard my comments if
you find them inappropriate or off topic ... I don't object to being
the subject of the delete key.

At any rate ...

The more I read (and participate in) ripostes between Art and the
various individuals on this list who attempt to engage him in
dialogue, the more I see a snapshot of America. Few people talk to
each other anymore, especially if they disagree on core principles.
If they do talk, they tend to talk at each other, and seldom listen
to what the other is trying to say. People with profoundly
different opinions on topics ... and the differences are growing
wider and wider (if no one has noticed), the feelings about the
differences growing more and more estranged ... avoid talking to each
other at all. It's like they live in different worlds. And the
chasm is growing. Close to the proportions circa 1850, but less
focused.

This alarms me.

But there are always those who, for whatever reason, do join the
conversations of people with whom they disagree. We tend to call
them "gadflies". At any rate, a lot of these people doing the
"talking at" do so with the a single purpose ... even if that purpose
is unintentional. To wit: they serve to disrupt the dialog, control
it, divert it.

It is hard to move forward and formulate concrete policy, to make
decisions, or to create consensus when you are busy swatting flies.
Metaphorically, this is what happened to liberalism in this country.
It is time to refocus energy. This does not mean that it is
unimportant to rebut criticism (or learn from it); just that energies
can often be put to better use than tilting with windmills.

Thank you.

Scott Hays
shays@ccwebster.net

"Wrinkles only go where the smiles have been."
- - Jimmy Buffett





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