Re: facts

[Diane Aoki <dkeikoa@hawaii.rr.com>]

The point I was making was we didn¹t make AYP because of one subgroup ­ the
disabled. And that is why we are in restructuring. Not because we failed to
make progress, as judged by our scores. You said, ³Your school is not being
"restructured" because of the results of one test.  Your school is being
restructured because for six consecutive years too many students failed to
achieve well enough. ³ By too many students, you may mean 20 out of 1000;
because that is about how many disabled students didn¹t meet AYP. You would
have a lot more credibility if you showed some humility and listened to
reason, rather than continuously spewing the official  NCLB script. Do you
have an imagination? Can you imagine what it must feel like to work your
butt off, dealing with families with drug problems, immigrants speaking no
English, families working 2-3 jobs to make ends meet, etc. etc., have some
success because your scores are pretty decent, higher than the state
average, and higher than the state AYP benchmarks, but still be put into
restructuring because students with learning disabilities and other problems
requiring Special Education, could not do well enough on the state tests
(but you know they have made progress anyway). You try it. You take a sped
class and have them pass the test. Good luck. Anyways, this past year, they
changed the number of students needed for the subgroup to be counted so
someone must have agreed with us that it was unfair that schools be
penalized for the results of one subgroup. So now we made AYP. A numbers
game that has little to do with student achievement.

On 6/4/06 6:56 AM, "ABurke5054@aol.com" <ABurke5054@aol.com> wrote:

> In a message dated 6/4/2006 7:19:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> shays@ccwebster.net writes:
>> Art  doesn't let a little thing like "facts" get in his way ...
>> 
>> Scott  Hays
>> shays@ccwebster.net
>> 
> _________________________________________
> Really?  Show me one example where I have been wrong on the "facts" (define
> "facts" in Hays-speak).
>  
> Art
>