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Re: naep vs state scores


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  • Subject: Re: naep vs state scores
  • From: "GERALD BRACEY" <gbracey1@verizon.net>
  • Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:51:34 -0400
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Monty, they don't mention that they're provisional because they're NOT provisional. The reports from the early 90's indicated that they were and they were to be used only until someone developed something better. No one has developed anything better and no one is working on the issue. After my op-ed that cut the legs out from under the achievement levels, I was told that Darvin Winick of NAGB had decided to "lay low" about it.

Jerry

----- Original Message ----- From: "Monty Neill" <monty@fairtest.org>
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: [arn-l] naep vs state scores


NCES has just released its report linking state scores to state scores - or rather, percent proficient on state tests to percent proficient on NAEP tests.

The table that shows the comparisons at no point makes clear that the NAEP levels are provisional. http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/researchcenter/statemapping_t1.asp
Never mind that independent researchers such as NAS and NAE have found the levels setting to be profoundly flawed and set too high.

In a paper for PARE, Bert Stoneberg makes may points re: comparing state and NAEP, among them:
- "The percentage at or above basic is the appropriate NAEP statistic for confirming state AYP results." This was the conclusion of the NAEP validity studies panel. In 2005, NAEP some of the narratives and charts focused more on basic than proficient.
- "Confirmation of state testing results should not be conducted on a point-by-point basis." He cites a NAGB Ad Hoc committee which drew this conclusion - apparently ignored in this latest NCES report.

To keep this short, I will not go on. The report is available at http://pareonline.net/pdf/v12n5.pdf.

Monty
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