Re: Guess whose chairing the assessment committee??

[Kate Nolan <knolan02@CCC.EDU>]

Thanks, Rick.  I agree wholeheartedly with your description of the problems with
testing.

Rick Parkany wrote:

> Kate:   what you say is absolutely correct. Alignment of pedagogy, curriculum,
> and assessment IS a most important dimension in education. The trouble is: most
> *assessment* is reduced to *measurement* by proxie. You must certainly be aware
> that there are a vast plenitude of assessment/evaluation modalities...ONE of
> them is based upon *measurement* by proxies, and the most distant from currilum
> ACTIVITIES are the Standardized tests.
>
> IF we want to assess curriculum ,we don't need to test 100% of learners--we
> only need to *sample* ~10 - 12% at most.
>
> IF we want to aassess learners, then more authentic modalities are indicated.
>
> The trrouble w/SBE is that it amalgamates BOTH individual & curriculum
> (program) assessment and throws in *personnel assessments* of teachers &
> principlas, to boot! An entirely corrupted ethical state and it is the one we
> are discussing this list.
>
> So far as the temperment of the list? Please be [patient, I hope it is not a
> right of passage, but we need more access to our discourse, so I hope you will
> stay and hel;p us develop a shared understanding of the issues (underneath the
> personalities)...say! and what personalities, too.
>
> Everybody is some mother's child. As a tezcher, I am never far from this
> sentimental disposition in my work and I try to treat others as if they were my
> own children--particularly when they act such, Kate... ;-} rap.
>
> > Michelle,
> >
> > What I have stated as a position hardly reduces to your caricature of
> > it.
> >
> > Perhaps I am on the wrong list.  The level of insult and intolerance of
> > respectful debate is growing here each day.  And adding "respectfully"
> > to the preamble to an insult hardly masks it!
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > Michelle in Nevada wrote:
> >
> > > B"H
> > >
> > > And Kate, respectfully, I think you are on the wrong list.
>
> ..Oh!
> SNIP!!!
>
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