Re: State Board Votes Down Exit Exam Options

[donna gastin <velikathevamp2@yahoo.com>]

Kelley <dancinglight@bendbroadband.com> wrote:  donna gastin wrote:

> */Scott Hays /* wrote:
>
> But the Exit Exam was not the point of the message to which you
> responded. The question was what happened to the CLAS test (which
> would probably be a much more reliable assessment of student academic
> success). However, in relation to that Exit Exam that the
> notoriously non-progressive State Board of Education continues to
> support, let me just say that Californians have been graduating from
> high school for a very long time without benefit of a high school
> exit exam to "test" their worthiness. If, as some claim, they are
> "unprepared" for adult life by the coursework they have completed ...
> well, life itself has (and will continue to) help them sort that
> out. The "Exit Exam" is a red herring, used only to hit certain
> populations of students over the head. The Standards Tests are
> another matter ... but I have exhausted my energy (not to mention
> space), so will leave that discussion for a later time.
>
>
> Now, I am going to ask you, which populations are being affected? Is 
> it the minorities, The spanish speaking immagrants both legal and 
> illegal? This also pertains to those who are born in the US. How 
> about the disabled and poor? All Ican tell you is as a fan of 
> these tests, be careful how you tread on that line. Just be very careful.
>
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What exactly are you asking? Which populations are affected by the exit 
exam? Which were affected by CLAS? I'm unsure of what you are saying 
here. I'm also unsure what line you are drawing, that someone might be 
stepping on. I'm not sure if you are saying you are a fan of the 
defunct CLAS, the current state exit exam, or ? I'm also not sure why 
I'm supposed to be "careful," or what "careful" means, although you've 
couched it as an amiguous threat. Just what are you asking me to "be 
careful" of, and why? 

Kelley

  
The exit exams and any standardized testing  can be used for  and maybe have been used as a"spring board " for the lack of a better term  t separate those who are weak  in both mind and body. You  use CLAs  because it was mentioned in California. But I am just speaking in general. And I appologize for not making myself clear on my reply.  But I am in no way a fan of these so called tests eitherExit exams or standardized. Because ofhow I really feel about them and what kind of damage they can do.  And whe n Inamed the poor and disabled  and the non English speaking persons and minorities? Those are exactly the people iam askingabout. How much will they be affected? Socieoeconimic status has far reaching implications.  I'd love to have you as a classroom administrator teach a lesson according to  the test to some one who, say, has seizures? How difficult  that must be for that  kid? If the seizures don't rob the meory, the cognitive robbing side effects of his medicine  surely will. A
 minor thing. cancerpatient with repeated tripsto the hospital for chmo and radiation.   those are examples of disabilities. poor , not beingable to afford the proper foods for nutrition  is a way to put a damper on these tests. hence socioeconimic status. Oh put race into the mix. And those who don't understand a word ofenglish that hurts on the learning process as well and not to mention disabled kids are always taught thesame curricula. at times  they are taught  up to three grades below their present level. and yet the yare forced to pass an exam that is at orabove what  the yknow.  To me that is away of separating the weaker genetic people from the strong. Eugenics Is what is called. A form of separating  the human race from disired  away from undesired , not caring  that undesired gives us uniqueness. Eugenics is the line I spoken of and we are bit by bit crossing it with these blasted tests  and Bushes push for mental checkups and such. I know it sounds a bit out of the solar
 system. But if Hitler did it, and succeeded, Why can't bush reopn the pandora's box  and set precidence for future US leaders,Hmmm?

		
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