Re: "A Personal Response to Those Who Bash Teacher Education" (David Berliner)

[Richard Hake <rrhake@earthlink.net>]

In response to my post  " 'A Personal Response to Those Who Bash 
Teacher Education' (David Berliner)" [Hake (2007)], Gerald Bracey, in 
his ARN-L post of 9 Mar 2007 21:17:52 -0400  wrote:

"I have not seen Goldenberg's comment on ARN or EDDRA, nor do you include it."

Gerald may have scanned my post Hake (2007) too rapidly.  There I wrote:

"In his terse Math-Teach post of 19 March titled " 'A Personal 
Response to Those Who Bash Teacher Education' (David Berliner)," 
Michael Paul Goldenberg (2007) wrote (in its entirety):
"<http://courses.ed.asu.edu/berliner/readings/teached.pdf>."

Believe it or not, Goldenberg's comment, in its entirety, is simply 
as stated above: 
"<http://courses.ed.asu.edu/berliner/readings/teached.pdf>".

For those who doubt that any discussion list poster can be so 
succinct, the "Michael Paul Goldenberg (2007)" in my post indicates 
that  Goldenberg's comment can be accessed by scrolling down to 
"Goldenberg (2007)" in the  REFERENCE list of that post [Hake 
(2007)],  and clicking on the URL given there 
<http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=1549145&tstart=0>.

I have repeated the Goldenberg (2007) reference in the present 
reference list below.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367
<rrhake@earthlink.net>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi>


REFERENCES
Goldenberg, M.P. 2007. " 'A Personal Response to Those Who Bash 
Teacher Education' (David Berliner)," MathTeach post of 19 March, 
9:43 AM (what time zone?); online at
<http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=1549145&tstart=0>.

Hake, R.R. 2007. " 'A Personal Response to Those Who Bash Teacher 
Education' (David Berliner),"  post of 19 Mar 2007 17:53:18 -0700; 
online at
<http://interversity.org/lists/arn-l/archives/Mar2007_date/msg00094.html>.