Re: bad item

["Art Burke" <aburke@vansd.org>]

Copyrighted?  Here we go again.  Art

>>> robertsj1@marion.k12.fl.us 05/07/03 09:26AM >>>
Many of them are already copyrighted by the State of Florida; it's
FCRAP!
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Art Burke [mailto:aburke@vansd.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:46 AM
To: arn-l@interversity.org 
Subject: Re: [arn-l] bad item


I'm sure that moms and dads all over the country will be eagerly
awaiting publication of a collection of lousy test items.  Sure to be
a
best seller.

Art

>>> kceh@airmail.net 05/07/03 07:11AM >>>
Is anybody collecting these items? Sure would be nice to keep such a 
collection handy. Many moms and dads would be absolutely thrilled to 
know that questions like these are used to keep their kids in school 
after hours, don't you think?

I see, therefore I blab...
Carol

On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 08:12 AM, Rick Parkany wrote:

> These jokers @ MacGraw-Hill and all the PC clones as a matter of
course 
> ask item
> prompts in this fashion.
>
> All the children who cared at all in my Rachael Margaret's 3rd grade

> class a
> month ago (practicibn' for the ELA exams, they were) almost revolted

> after one
> such *simulation* involving a child, sick at home, but--nevertheless
as 
> a good
> child and patient patient--dreaming of things he liked (his toys
were

> alive and
> playing with him). The children were asked *How do you THINK this
child 
> felt in
> the story?* There were pictures of (a) sad, (b) happy, (c) neutral 
> facial
> pictorial renditions AND (d) a child smiling in bed, cozy against
his

> pillow,
> snuggling!!!
>
> Of course, Rachael picked *D*, because she STILL pretend plays as
much 
> or more
> than she dd before school Daze hit, and she's such a trooper that
she

> rarely, if
> ever, complains, especially while sick--THAT's the time she gets
Momma 
> time (and
> Daddy time when she wills it). The CORRECT answer was, of course,
(a)

> [of
> course, who can be sick and happy at the same time??? why! it seems
all 
> of us
> COULD be w/the proper support and mental frame of mind. No?].
>
> ASside from Rachael's *thinking* on the subject, isn't it quite
clear

> that if
> you ask a child what they THINK (or as in the latter math case,
which

> one is
> ABOUT right...<they ALL are in some scale or other!!!>), they had 
> better be
> ready to score EVERY answer *correct*--or am I just a jaded old
f**t,

> myself?
> ;-} rap.
>
> I quit archiving crap like this a few years ago--now, my kids
routinely 
> scan
> each test for such bogus escapades in FORCING children to think as 
> adults
> <sigh!> LONG BEFORE they are cognitively/emotionally ready so to 
> do--that is
> LONG before they have learnt to stifle their spirit for *job
security* 
> as most
> adults eventually do, most but the more childlike of us, that 
> is...    ;-} rap.
>
> "gerald w. bracey" wrote:
>
>> I think this is a wondereful item.  It teaches kids to not trust
tests.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "William Cala" <wcala@rochester.rr.com>
>> To: <arn-l@interversity.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 7:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [arn-l] bad item
>>
>>> pick the best answer:  31 (divided by) 8 =
>>> a.  about 3
>>> b.  about 240
>>> c.  about 11
>>> d.  answer is not there
>>>
>>>
>>> What a horrible question.  So many things wrong here.  Too much 
>>> emphasis
>> on
>>> language versus mathematics.  What qualifies as good enough to be 
>>> "about?"
>>> The fact that A,B and C are all preceded by "about" leads one to 
>>> believe
>>> that the answer supplied will not be exact.  Then D, turns this
simple
>>> "math" problem into mental gymnastics for the student.
>
> --
> "Dein Wachstum sei feste und lache vor Lust!
> Deines Herzens Trefflichkeit
> Hat dir selbst das Feld bereit',
> Auf dem du bluehen musst." JS Bach: Bauern Kantata
> Richard A. Parkany: SUNY@Albany
> Prometheus Educational Services
> http://www.borg.com/~rparkany/ 
> Upper Hudson & Mohawk Valleys; New York State, USA
>
>
>

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