Re: Candidate's ed policy

[aburke5054@aol.com]

If jobs are going overseas, is the desire of CEOs to enrich themselves 
really the only reason?  You would resist an argument that reduced 
everything happening in public education to teachers' greed; however, 
you eagerly attribute the entire working of the economy to the greed of 
CEOs.  Sometimes you can't tell the seventh graders from their teacher.

In any event, David Brooks has a good column on "globalizsation."  He 
points out that manufacturing jobs have moved overseas for many 
reasons, not the least of which is the desire to put manufacturing 
plants close to the markets for their output.  He also says that 
technology has made manufacturing more efficient, to the point where 
fewer people are producing more.  So from one point of view the economy 
needs fewer workers, but more highly skilled workers.   And yes, 
education is important for developing those highly skilled workers.

One thing that I agree with you on completely is the desirability of 
making institutions accountable to their stakeholders.  Public 
education leads the way in that, doesn't it?  No self-serving workings 
there.  All for the kids.

Art

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Arosteguy <robmarx1@yahoo.com>
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: [arn-l] Candidate's ed policy


Wait...jobs are being exported because the US
workforce doesn't have a high enough education level?
So that's why all the manufacturing jobs have moved to
China and India!  Those highly educated rural and
urban women and children who don't unionize and are
easy to control are so highly educated!  I knew it!
Come on.  That's the biggest red herring I've heard so
far.  Its got nothing to do with education and
everything to do with the bottom line.  Share holders
want profits, CEOs want to increase their income
because they are oh so poor.  Lets stop the ethic of
corporate greed and excessive incomes and the jobs
will come back--we need to ensure that corporations
are accountable to their stake holders, not their
share holders.

Robert A.

--- Bussardre@aol.com wrote:

> On March 29, I got to speak privately with Obama for
> about five minutes on
> education issues specifically and I expressed my
> concern that what he said at a
>  private fundraiser in Jacksonville, Fla. sounded
> like a page out of the
> Business  Round Table script.  He had spouted some
> of the same data that is used
> to  bash public education.  I suggeted he read books
> by Gerald Bracey and Susan
>  Ohanian.
>
> We talked about No Child Left Behind, and he said he
> had a sister-in-law  who
> is a teacher and who has been preaching to him that
> the testing and
> accountability approach was counterproductive, and I
> told him I agreed.   But he
> insisted there needed to be some way to hold
> teachers accountable.   I have since
> seen what I think appears to be a retreat from the
> teacher  accountability
> view.  I suspect he got an earful in the year since
> I spoke  with him.
>
> Here's what I wrote about his education remarks for
> the April issue of
> "Inside Report," the monthly newsletter of the Duval
> County Democratic  Party.
>
> "Asked what he would do to help families, and
> especially to stabilize those
> in low income communities, Obama said “There is no
> one thing to do,” then
> listed  some strategies: 1) provide gainful
> employment, particularly for men; and
> create  second chances for offenders who live in
> those communities by
> providing  legislation that will offer a clean slate
> to those who have demonstrated
> worthiness; 2) Provide early childhood education and
> pre-k education.
>
>  "Responding to a question about what can be done to
> stop the  outsourcing of
> American jobs, Obama suggested a highly educated
> American  workforce was key.
> He commented on the high value that is placed on
> education in  countries like
> India and China, where many American jobs have been
> exported."
>
> Hope this provides some insight.
>
> --Billee Bussard
>
>
> In a message dated 4/30/2008 8:03:10 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> dancinglight@bendbroadband.com writes:
>
>
> He just  said these things on Fox News this weekend,
> but I'd read them
> before, last  summer.  The comments last summer were
> more detailed, and I
> can't  find a transcript, but here is the transcript
> for recent  remarks:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/27/transcript-obama-on-fns/
>



      
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