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Re: [ARN-state] Re: Guru talk, Vaticans, and "Authentic Assessment"



It seems to me that first you should find out what and how the teachers are teaching, instead of assuming that because they use a certain testing methodology, that testing is completely driving their teaching. Maybe the teachers are doing a bang-up job of teaching decoding and whatever else pre-K and K kids are supposed to be learning.

Art

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From: Peter Campbell <campbellp@mail.montclair.edu>
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Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [arn-l] [ARN-state] Re: Guru talk, Vaticans, and "Authentic Assessment"


What I'm finding here in the Portland, OR public schools is an odd, bastardized notion of constructivism and formative assessment. The pre-K and K teachers here -- not sure about other grade levels -- are evaluating all the time alright. But they're using quantitative measures of decoding skills and reporting numeric data to the district office via a spreadsheet they have to use. Of course, as even Margaret Spellings admitted, what gets measured gets taught. So they teach decoding. Then measure decoding. Then teach more decoding. Then measure more decoding. My 4-year-old daughter, enrolled in pre-K, brings home worksheets just about every day.


Peter C.



On Nov 6, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Susan Harman wrote:


In a constructivist model, we dont teach-test-teach. We are working

beside kids, and evaluating all the time (how else know what they
dont

know, and therefore what to teach them?). I hate the word "test" and

dont use it for anything I do. And "documentation" is just that:

collecting samples of childrens work to back up—document—a teachers

estimate of where the child is.

We agree not to bash teachers, but I think we have different
paradigms

of teaching, some of which is the difference between ele and hs, but

mostly not.




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