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Re: David Wasserman III



Like I said, La Raza, MALDEF, and leading civil rights, progressive, and legal advocacy organizations support NCLB's accountability backbone. That's saying a lot.

The Joint Statement is nonsensical and self-contradictory.

You're PS shows that you're in touch with hip slang as much as you are with issues in public education. And while there's a "Mean Girls" quality to your monologue, I suppose I should take some comfort in that you're not not threatening to get a mob and beat me up, like Schmidt, or flaming me with obscenity like Lucido.

Art

-----Original Message-----
From: pwmjoy@earthlink.net <pwmjoy@earthlink.net>
To: arn-l <arn-l@interversity.org>
Sent: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:58 am
Subject: [arn-l] David Wasserman III
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It is palpably obvious that our off-the-cuff silly, immature commentator needs
help with his reading, his knowledge of the history of education, but most of
all is in serious need of self awareness as he undresses his verbal ploys and
half-truths. Let’s take a brief journey through Foggybottom’s recent response to
the David Wasserman exchange:

“Pwmjoy's arguments strike me more as more aking to rantings on AM radio than
the mature comments of an educator”…..Well, nothing like an inference that the
source of this remark is an idol of grown-up-ness. Makes one feel secure that at
least someone in the discussion is an adult. What a relief.

“Can anyone seriously argue that George Bush's silver-tongued rhetoric about
childrens is learning hoodwinked political neophytes like George Miller and Ted
Kennedy into signing on to NCLB and continues to enthrall them into supporting
it?”….. In fact, they were fooled, and, in fact, their continued support is only
with the broadest outlines of NCLB, i.e., all children deserve to prosper at the
public schools they attend and not experience a form of educational apartheid
based on socio economic class distinction. Furthermore, Maturity Incorporated,
again and as is usual, did not address the Kennedy speech given at Walnut Hill
School which proved that what hordes of educators have complained about
regarding NCLB is true, i.e., the disappearance of art, music, physical
education etc. from the curriculum.

“NAACP may have signed the Joint Statement, but the fact remains that NAACP
argued in federal court that states should enforce the "letter and spirit" of
NCLB" and it specifically identified NCLB's accountability and improvement
requirements among the provisions that
should be enforced.”……Isn’t this interesting to see how Mr. Totally-An-Adult
glosses over the NAACP signature to the “Joint Statement” and the direct quote
from that statement, but underscores the lawsuit in Ct. without contextualizing
it within the larger legal framework of civil rights. In fact, this blog had, in
the past, published that this suit was not an outright endorsement of NCLB. It
could not have been in order for the NAACP to have signed the “Joint Statement.”

“La Raza says, "The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) believes that English
language learners (ELLs) must be included in the No Child Left Behind Act??™s
(NCLB) system of assessment and accountability.Prior to enactment of NCLB, ELLs
received little attention from the education community, outside of Title VII
directors and other bilingual education advocates. NCLB has raised the
visibility of ELLs among policy-makers and educators." MALDEF says "Federal,
state, and local school officials must ensure that ELLs are fully and
appropriately included in NCLB accountability systems so that schools focus upon
meeting the academic needs of ELLs." So whle both organizations welcome
constructive changes in NCLB, both support NCLB's accountability provisions in
their widest outline.”……..First of all, as I quoted earlier, Raul Gonzales
basically said everything about NCLB is on the table. Mr. Grown-Up pays no
attention to this but does use this interesting phrase, “accountability provis
ions in their widest outline”. This “widest outline” has never been, till most
recently, his position regarding NCLB. His tenure on this blog has been a kind
of “strict copnstructionist” regarding NCLB, but now he has moved closer to what
many critics of NCLB have been saying since day one. Mr. Aged Grape, go back to
the “Joint Statement”. Read it and you will see that it does not represent the
current destructive, reductionistic, insulting implementation of NCLB. However
polite its rhetoric, it is a fundamental and bold critique of NCLB and what must
essentially change if it is to survive. Read it, ma man!

“It is wildly unbelievable to suggest, as pwmjoy does, that George Miller, Ted
Kennedy, NAACP, LA Raza, MALDEF, and other leading civil-rights and advocacy
organizations are so stupid and so corrupt that they don't recognize a a
"fascist" plot against children right under their noses.”……Mr.
I-Have-Arrived-At-The-Mountaintop-of-Mature-Wisdom continues his propaganda
machinations that show no understanding of history and social class conflict.
Classic manipulation of ideals like those held by Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Miller, the
NAACP, LaRaza, et al (who, by the way?) line the pages of history books. I don’t
think they are stupid or corrupt, but I do think they are getting smarter when
it comes to dealing with an extremely stupid and corrupt Orwellian mob in the
White House and among extremist Republicans. In fact, it is your own seeming
stupidity and corrupt intellect that seems to be the real issue here, Mr. Old
Wise Owl.

“What changes would I like to see in NCLB? For starters, I would like to see
recourse for parents and children when districts and states fail to meet their
obligations to improve schools. Listen for the howls.”…..Well, nothing like a
non-response. In effect, this response is empty for no one disagrees with it.
The options provided by NCLB don’t work, as most aware folk knew from the
beginning, e.g., transfer to more successful schools. So, Cupcake really is in
denial. As NCLB morphs, hopefully, into a wiser vision of achievement for all
kids, Sassafrass, will be left behind to ponder the wisdom of his ways and count
the days before qualifying for a brain transplant.

P.S. Hey, AB, slap five, daddy, u da grinch dat stole edjacation, but we still
luv ya, baby. Ovah 'n out, ma man. Have a cold one and relax. U ok....Gots ta be
sumone ta play yo role, baby. :-)





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