Fwd: Reminder (asking your personal opinion!).

["Deanna M. De'Liberto" <Ddeliberto@AOL.COM>]

Thanks to all who have responded.

I have received a number of interesting comments in regard to Multiple
Evaluation.  I have forwarded these to Arie Dirkzwager, the test author and
researcher.

Below, is Arie's response to some of your concerns.  I am not sure if this
post actually was posted to the list.  If it was, I apologize for the repeated
posting.  I did want to make sure that her reopens was posted and I will send
any response information (including her conclusions) as this becomes
available.

If you have not yet responded I hope this response has helped some.  Thanks
again for your assistance.

Deanna
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• To: Ddeliberto@aol.com, Robert.Dawson@STMARYS.CA, edstat-l@jse.stat.ncsu.edu, EVALTALK@UA1VM.UA.EDU, ARN-L@listsrva.cua.edu
• Subject: Re: Reminder (asking your personal opinion!).
• From: Arie Dirkzwager <aried@xs4all.nl>
• Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 16:06:26 +0000

At 09:02 8-10-98 EDT, you wrote:
>Perhaps Arie can better respond to your specific questions.
>
>As for the attachment, mine did not come in as an attachment and I did the
>same thing I did for the first one I sent. So I am at a loss as to what or
>how that happened. Really I apologize for that as I do not ever send
>attachment to the list.
>
>But please take some time to respond to Arie. She really needs your help.
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Deanna
>===================================================
>Deanna M. De'Liberto, President/Director of Assessment
>D Squared Assessments, Inc.
>(Specialists in Test Development/Validation and Test Administration)
>9 Bedle Road, Suite 250
>Hazlet, NJ 07730-1209
>Phone: (732) 888-9339
>Email: Ddeliberto@aol.com
>Web: http://www.quikpage.com/D/dsquared
>
>Member of the Association of Test Publishers
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>
>
>In a message dated 10/8/98 8:54:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>Robert.Dawson@STMARYS.CA writes:
>
>> >
>> > Arie is still in need of responses to this. Please if you have not yet
>> > responded, please do so now. Be sure to mention which listserv you
>> received
>> > this message and send the response directly to her, NOT to the list.
>>
>> Deanna:
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry. I don't see (a) why your friend needs responses to those
>> questions,

As data for statistical analysis and testing the hypotheses
formulated in the statements (the testing and scoring method is Multiple
Evaluation but the answers can also be scored in the Multiple Choice way and
it can be checked if the proportion "right" in each of the categories
matches the stated probability limits.

>>especially as she has apparently already decided what the
>> "right" answer is;

I only gave MY (strong) opinion, but assuming that even an opinion
can be "right" or "wrong" and that the probability of judging these
statements in the right way is somewhat larger than chance (>50%) I will
take the answer that is chosen by the majority of the respondent as the
"right" one.

>> (b) why anybody needs the results of a self-selected survey like this on
>> any matter whatsoever, or (c) why any respondent should worry about losing
>> or gaining points on something like this [which seems to be part of the
>> process]

May be because they want to play the game seriously trying to make
the best individual score possible and because they are curious about the
results I will analyse and report and want to cooperate to give me the best
data they can.

>>(d) why a survey that comes attached to an attempt to bias the
>> response should be taken seriously.

Not as serious a "bias" as in education where you teach the bias
first and than test the students on what you taught. I leave the respondents
the freedom to oppose my own bias I "taught" by giving in when the majority
disagrees (at least: I may try again by giving my scientific arguments for
my teaching (for my "bias").

Arie


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