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Re: FEA letter on NCLB faxed today to members of Congress


  • To: <arn-l@interversity.org>
  • Subject: Re: FEA letter on NCLB faxed today to members of Congress
  • From: "ElsaHaas" <ElsaHaas@si.rr.com>
  • Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:30:41 -0400
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  • In-reply-to: <001401c8068c$2c36b4f0$280a010a@Monty>

Monty,

Okay, thanks. I guess the growth model is only "too radical" for most if it
stands alone. It sounds like the draft bill probably includes something
about the possibility of individual "growth" being considered, but only as a
small part of an overall formula that gives most weight to the comparisons
between students.

In homeschooling, those states which do require testing sometimes allow for
various ways of demonstrating "adequate progress." For example, a child
might either score above a certain percentile or show a certain amount of
"growth" since taking a test the previous year.

Elsa

-----Original Message-----
From: arn-l-owner@interversity.org [mailto:arn-l-owner@interversity.org] On
Behalf Of Monty Neill
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:41 AM

FEA has consistently supported growth models, with the proviso they should
include more than test scores. Growth models are in the bill, but limited by

AYP and the goal of all proficient by 2014 rendering them in view of at
least most experts at best partial growth measures. Because the growth
provision is in the draft bill and clearly accepted by leaders in both
parties, there is little doubt it will be in the final bill. In that sense,
growth measures - at least those limited to standardized test scores - are
not radical at all at this time.

Dealing with AYP and multiple indicators however is nonexistent or
inadequate in the draft bill. So, in sum: no need to make an issue of growth

measures, but need to address two powerful factors that will largely control

the educational utility of growth measures - AYP and multiple indicators.

Monty

----- Original Message -----
From: "ElsaHaas" <ElsaHaas@si.rr.com>
To: <arn-l@interversity.org>

I hadn't kept up on reading about all of this, and I'm disappointed to see
that there's nothing in the FEA's recommendations about tracking the
improvement in individual students' scores over time, rather than comparing
kids to each other. Is that idea dead in the water? Too radical, I guess.

Elsa Haas





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