Re: FairTest News Release on SAT Scores

[Karen Canty <kscanty@PACBELL.NET>]

Bill,

I bought the Atlantic Monthly and was not surprised at Fallows or the
following article.  I've watched it happen in my community not only about
college but about high school.  People send their kids to private high
schools because they PERCEIVE that they can't get the same kind of education
in our public high school and it's usually based on information about as
bogus as the US News and World Report - cocktail party conversation etc.
because there is NO information made public about where or how well the
private school kids are doing or where they're going to college.....

Thanks for alerting us to the articles.....

karen

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU]On Behalf Of Dr. William C. Cala, Ed.D.
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 7:38 PM
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Subject: Re: FairTest News Release on SAT Scores


The Early Decision story by Fallows that I posted earlier talks about how
the ED process is heightening the use and value of SAT scores.

BC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Roberts" <dmr@PSU.EDU>
To: <ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: FairTest News Release on SAT Scores


> At 02:44 PM 8/28/01 -0400, Bob Schaeffer wrote:
> >Careful here. Several leading "SAT Optional" schools ask students to
> >submit scores _after_ they are admitted to use in ongoing research
> >projects about the test's utility -- or lack thereof (and, yes, to
> >report to folks like U.S. News & World Report).
>
> of course, this would be a no brainer use, right? to NOT use them in
> admissions (and be honest about this), and then see if they
(retroactively)
> WOULD have been useful IN admissions? how can that be?
>
> >  There are plenty of more
> >damaging examples of SAT misuse (e.g., admissions and scholarship
> >cut-off scores) where litigation would be more justified -- contact us
> >if you seriously want to pursue such a lawsuit.
>
> i have no interest in bringing any litigation ... i merely quoted a
section
> from fairtest ... and inquired about whether anyone knew of any litigation
> where a school says you do not need to submit the scores for admission ...
> but, then requires them anyway ...
>
> many eons ago at penn state, the graduate school required that GRE scores
> be part of ALL graduate school admissions ... until it became clear that
> since many programs within the university did NOT use these data ... the
> graduate school wised up and relented ... so, sure ... programs can
require
> them but, it cannot force everyone to submit ...
>
>
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