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[Author Prev][Author Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Author Index][Thread Index] Re: Justification for the SAT
And didn't I just read a report somewhere that 44% of students in public universities and 52% in private universities graduate from college? So why are we so worried about how many/what sex/who gets in? if the graduation rate from our high schools were this low, we'd be forced out of business!!!! Karen -----Original Message----- From: Assessment Reform Network Mailing List [mailto:ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU]On Behalf Of dennis roberts Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 2:43 PM To: ARN-L@LISTS.CUA.EDU Subject: Re: Justification for the SAT let's face it ... there is no justification for relying on any one measure ... in the student's record ... to determine if they should go to college and/ or should be offered admission to college however, most would agree that there are some things more important than others ... whether they did will in "gym" in high school would NOT be one of them their score on a spelling test might not be another either or whether they were in the band but, there are a number of major tests and courses ... and grades ... and accomplishments ... that are ... can we PLEASE abandon the notion that ONE thing is all important? in addition ... we have to face another fact ... no matter WHAT you toss into the pot or don't toss into the pot ... for predicting college success ... or (from the perspective of the typical college admissions officer) for deciding to offer admission or not offer admission ... more than 50% of the variation we see in college grades ... IS TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE ... there are so many reasons why kids opt to try to go to college or not ... to do well or not well in college ... or finish or not finish college ... that are serendipitous ... random occurrences that "just present" themselves to the student at moments in time (personal crises, financial crises, smart but deteriorating level of motivation, lucky chance at jobs, etc. etc. ) ... that we need to take ALL attempts to estimate "potential" success with a grain of salt while a variety of factors can be helpful in counseling high school students about college ... and, used to make admissions decisions ... NONE of these will be REAL successful ... ============================================================== dennis roberts, penn state university educational psychology, 8148632401 http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/drober~1.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the ARN-L list, send command SIGNOFF ARN-L to LISTSERV@LISTS.CUA.EDU. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the ARN-L list, send command SIGNOFF ARN-L to LISTSERV@LISTS.CUA.EDU.
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