Re: Teacher Liability for giving and not giving Tests/Preparing Students
- Subject: Re: Teacher Liability for giving and not giving Tests/Preparing Students
- From: Judi Hirsch <judih@OUSD.K12.CA.US>
- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:43:05 -0700
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Re: Teacher Liability for giving and not giving Tests/Preparing StudentsMy research was done with Mexican American and African American middle school students identified as Learning Disabled. I can send you a one page abstract if you send me your address or I can fax it to you. As for first graders (or those in ANY grade) I think the emphasis must be on LEARNING rather than TEACHING, and I would NEVER even consider what they might get on norm-referenced standardized tests as indicative of anything other than what they got on a norm-referenced standardized test. School should be about providing opportunities to learn, not to get good scores on tests.
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From: Becky Schaller
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: Teacher Liability for giving and not giving Tests/Preparing Students
Judi, would you say more about this research? When did you do it? What grades did you cover? Is it published somewhere?
I teach first grade. The place that gets me stuck is when it comes to teaching students to add and subtract with regrouping. First graders can be taught to at least add with regrouping by rote - probably subtract also. But from what I've seen, the vast majority have no idea what they are doing. So the ones who are able to do so by rote get these problems correct on the standardized tests. All my training and experience tells me that these problems are simply inappropriate for the vast majority of first graders.
From: Judi Hirsch <judih@OUSD.K12.CA.US>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 21:27:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Teacher Liability for giving and not giving Tests
The research I did for my dissertation showed that students who are taught
to think well do better on a variety of measures, including standardized
tests, so I never have had any qualms about not preparing them for those
stupid tests. I also always advised my students and their parents that the
young people's time could be best spent learning.
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