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  • To: arn-l@interversity.org
  • Subject: Re: [arn-l Digest] Vol. 3 No. 230 Messages: 11
  • From: Karen Cook <kcook2484@adelphia.net>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:37:33 -0400
  • In-reply-to: <20060901102130.AC0AF22AFE@interversity.biz>
  • References: <20060901102130.AC0AF22AFE@interversity.biz>

how do I post to this? I have been reading for almost a year now, (finding out about the list from Susan Ohanian) and feel compelled to reply to a particular post here.

thanks
Karen

On Sep 1, 2006, at 6:21 AM, arn-l-owner@interversity.org wrote:

ARN-L Daily Digest
Volume 3 : Issue 230 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
200608/139: jerry bracey thought you might like this product at CafePress.com!
gbracey1
200608/140: Re: jerry bracey thought you might like this product at CafePress.com!
QCao009
200608/142: Re: jerry bracey thought you might like this product at CafePress.com!
ABurke5054
200608/141: is testing good for you?
Peter Campbell
200608/143: eduGlobalization is U.S.
Peter Campbell
200608/145: Re: eduGlobalization is U.S.
aburke5054
200608/144: A prayer for Art in Ernesto
QCao009
200608/146: Teaching
QCao009
200608/147: Repeating school has no benefit: study
Monty Neill
200608/149: Re: Repeating school has no benefit: study
aburke5054
200608/148: education business
Monty Neill

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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:16:36 -0700
From: <gbracey1@verizon.net>
To: <arn-l@interversity.org>
Subject: jerry bracey thought you might like this product at CafePress.com!
Message-ID: <001001c6cc36$85496d80$2a03a8c0@ws42>

Hi arn!


jerry bracey asked us to send you this email along with the following note:


We should all wear this during reauthorization of NCLB.


You can view the product by visiting:

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/tf.aspx?tf=269759


Thank you!

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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:53:27 EDT
From: QCao009@aol.com
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Subject: Re: jerry bracey thought you might like this product at CafePress.com!
Message-ID: <bff.2c4c84b.3226f257@aol.com>



In a message dated 8/30/06 9:17:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gbracey1@verizon.net writes:

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/tf.aspx?tf=269759



Jerry:

Guess we are not promising our young people 64 vestal virgins. Not yet.

At the rate we are offering real choices like vouchers and computerized
reading programs, we will have to show them pictures in case they cannot read or
think like our venerable victorious leader who showed up on the Gulf Coast
yesterday for a photo op.

This ed reform is certainly progress like the progress we are making in Iraq
and post-Katrina. You are doing a great job, Wee-wee.

Quan




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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:11:46 EDT
From: ABurke5054@aol.com
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Subject: Re: jerry bracey thought you might like this product at CafePress.com!
Message-ID: <c24.2468ea6.3226f6a2@aol.com>


In a message dated 8/30/2006 6:54:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
QCao009@aol.com writes:

Jerry:

... This ed reform is certainly progress like the progress we are making in
Iraq and post-Katrina. You are doing a great job, Wee-wee.

Quan




____________________________________________________
Give yourself credit too. "Wee-wee" is a great description of the job that
both you and Jerry are doing in regard to educational reform, particularly
NCLB.

Art


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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:09:18 -0500
From: Peter Campbell <campbellp@mail.montclair.edu>
To: ARN State <ARN-state@yahoogroups.com>,
ARN Main List <arn-l@interversity.org>
Subject: is testing good for you?
Message-ID: <6350CEA3-04A3-456A-BA5B-F8A805C34E09@mail.montclair.edu>

This excerpt from a story in this week's EdWeek, "Cognition Studies
Offer Insights on Academic Tactics," leads me to conclude that we
should do nothing but test students all the time and that classrooms
really should be thought of as rat mazes where student behavior can
be dissected and analyzed. After all, if test-taking bolsters
learning, surely more test-taking will produce more learning.

On a less cynically disgusted note, the findings about multiple-
choice questions only add more ammunition to the case against dumb-
downed tests and dumb-downed curricula that serve dumb-downed tests.
But let's not let these findings

a) get in the way of the proven, cost-effective mechanisms that
currently measure the quality of our public schools.
b) rain on our data parade and spoil our appetite for accountability.
c) jeopardize the economic fortunes of McGraw-Hill, Houghton-Mifflin,
and Harcourt General.
d) all of the above.
e) one or two of the above.
f) some of the above.

--begin excerpt--

At Washington University in St. Louis, one group of IES-funded
researchers has learned that taking a test, in and of itself, can
bolster learning.

Psychology professor Henry L. Roediger III and his research partners
had college students read prose passages covering general scientific
topics. Afterward, some students were given from one to three tests
with open-ended questions in which they were asked to recall what
they had read. Other groups restudied the material, but were not
given tests.

Five minutes after the study or test sessions ended, all the students
were tested. The study-only group did better, recalling more of what
they had read than the quiz-only group. A week later, though, the
test-taking group had the better grasp of the material?even though
they had had fewer opportunities to restudy the original material.

?I usually think of my tests as being for assessment purposes, but
giving someone a memory test and having them retrieve information
from memory actually changes memory,? said Mr. Roediger, who is
planning to take experiments into precollegiate schools this fall.

Mr. Roediger?s colleagues have also found that the learning benefits
are greatest when the tests are composed of short-answer rather than
multiple-choice questions. That?s a point on which several of the
studies converge: Learning seems to stick when students are forced to
generate their own answers to questions or their own definitions of
words and concepts.

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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:59:18 -0500
From: Peter Campbell <campbellp@mail.montclair.edu>
To: ARN State <ARN-state@yahoogroups.com>,
ARN Main List <arn-l@interversity.org>
Subject: eduGlobalization is U.S.
Message-ID: <CF84DD3C-E873-40A9-94A3-D6A5FA1B1601@mail.montclair.edu>

-- begin excerpt from this week's EdWeek, "U.S. Test Developers Cashing In on Markets Abroad" --

A heightened global interest in education standards and
accountability is helping U.S.-based testing organizations expand
overseas in both K-12 and higher education.

At the primary and secondary levels, international-development groups
that underwrite education projects are pushing countries to establish
academic standards, and the assessments to go with them. Increased
globalization is also encouraging countries to pay closer attention
to student performance as a measure of their countries? economic
competitiveness. In both cases, such countries are turning to U.S.
expertise in student assessment.

-- end excerpt --

Globalization, along with global warming, is merely a theory. There
is no reason to suspect that either phenomenon is anything other than
the paranoid rantings of lunatics.

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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:01:46 -0400
From: aburke5054@aol.com
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Subject: Re: eduGlobalization is U.S.
Message-ID: <8C89A86417829F4-7B8-6AA@MBLK-R08.sysops.aol.com>


-----Original Message-----
From: campbellp@mail.montclair.edu
To: ARN-state@yahoogroups.com; arn-l@interversity.org
Sent: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 8:59 AM
Subject: [arn-l] eduGlobalization is U.S.

...Globalization, along with global warming, is merely a theory. There is no reason to suspect that either phenomenon is anything other than the paranoid rantings of lunatics. ___________________________________________________
"Globalization" and "global warming" can mean many things and many things about them are not clear. But only a fool would say that there is nothing to them.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/globalization/
http://www1.worldbank.org/economicpolicy/globalization/
http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/index.html

Art

_______________________________________________________________________ _
Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.


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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:10:55 EDT
From: QCao009@aol.com
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Subject: A prayer for Art in Ernesto
Message-ID: <c22.29d3bf1.3227128f@aol.com>

We've been letting our six-year-old go to sleep listening to the radio, and
I'm beginning to wonder if itâ??s a good idea. Last night he said his prayers
and wound up with: â??And God bless Mommy and Daddy and Sister. Amenâ??and FM!â??

Quan




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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:06:47 EDT
From: QCao009@aol.com
To: fcarforum@yahoogroups.com, flsst@yahoogroups.com,
arn-l@interversity.org, azble@asu.edu, multied-l@usc.edu
Cc: wilburhawke@earthlink.net
Subject: Teaching
Message-ID: <3f7.944ca62.32278217@aol.com>

WHAT TEACHERS MAKE

The dinner guests were sitting around the table discussing life. One man, a
CEO, decided to explain the problem with education. He argued, "What's a kid
going to learn from someone who decided his best option in life was to become
a teacher?"

He reminded the other dinner guests what they say about teachers: "Those who
can, do. Those who can't, teach." To stress his point he said to another
guest, "You're a teacher, Susan. Be honest. What do you make?"

Susan, who had a reputation for honesty and frankness replied,
"You want to know what I make?

"I make kids work harder than they ever thought they could.
"I make a C+ feel like the winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor.
"I make kids sit through 40 minutes of study hall in absolute silence.

"You want to know what I make?!

"I make kids wonder.
"I make them question.
"I make them criticize.
"I make them apologize and mean it.
"I make them write.
"I make them read, read, read.

"I make them show all their work in Math and perfect their final drafts in
English. I make them understand that if you have the brains, and follow your
heart, and if someone ever tries to judge you by what you make, you must pay
no attention because they just didn't learn."

Susan paused and then continued. "You want to know what I make?
'I MAKE A DIFFERENCE.' What do you make?"

"Teachers make every other profession possible!"


Quan




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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:41:19 -0400
From: "Monty Neill" <monty@fairtest.org>
To: <ARN-state@yahoogroups.com>, "ARN-L" <arn-l@interversity.org>,
"arn2-strategy" <arn2-strategy@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Repeating school has no benefit: study
Message-ID: <023001c6cd46$32101f40$8201a8c0@Monty>

More useful evidence against the harmful policy of grade retention:

Sydney Morning Herald, Australia
Repeating school has no benefit: study
August 30, 2006 - 9:44AM
Making a student repeat a level at school has no benefit and in fact may do more harm, Australian research shows.

The study, by Deakin University's Dr Helen McGrath, also found students who repeated a year were 20 to 50 per cent more likely to drop out, compared to similar students who progressed.

Dr McGrath reviewed dozens of studies by academics in Australia and the United States over the past 75 years comparing the outcomes for students with specific needs who were either held back or allowed to progress.

She said those studies failed to support the popular assumption among teachers and parents that repeating a year helped a student's academic performance.

"There may be an occasional student who is the exception, but for most students providing them with more of what didn't work for them the first time around is an exercise in futility," she said.

"In fact, repeating a year confirms to a student that they have failed.

"They experience stress from being taller, larger and more physically mature than their younger classmates. They miss their friends who have moved on to the next year level.

"They also experience boredom from repeating similar tasks and assignments. Their self esteem drops. All of these factors ultimately lead many to drop out."

There also appears to be no benefit in holding children back from starting school because they were not seen to be "school ready".

"If a child is old enough to enter primary school, then holding them back and enrolling them in an additional year of preschool appears to provide no academic or social advantages and may in fact be detrimental in many cases," she said.

Dr McGrath said simply promoting the struggling student to the next year level was not the answer either.

She said schools needed to consider more effective alternatives to support students who experienced social, behavioural or academic difficulties.

These included identifying problems at pre-school level and developing programs to address them, creating individual education plans, providing specialist support and adapting the curriculum to the needs of the student.

"Multi-age classrooms and peer tutoring also provide ways of supporting students who may be struggling," she said.

The study, To Repeat or Not to Repeat?, was published in the July edition of WORDS: Journal of the Association of Western Australian Primary Principals.

© 2006 AAP


Monty Neill, Ed.D.
Executive Director
FairTest
342 Broadway
Cambridge, MA 02139
617-864-4810 fax 617-497-2224
monty@fairtest.org
http://www.fairtest.org
Donate: https://secure.entango.com/servlet/donate/MnrXjT8MQqk

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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:42:23 -0400
From: aburke5054@aol.com
To: arn-l@interversity.org
Subject: Re: Repeating school has no benefit: study
Message-ID: <8C89B6E3E541B42-75C-783C@FWM-M25.sysops.aol.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: monty@fairtest.org
To: ARN-state@yahoogroups.com; arn-l@interversity.org; arn2-strategy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 2:41 PM
Subject: [arn-l] Repeating school has no benefit: study

More useful evidence against the harmful policy of grade retention: Sydney Morning Herald, Australia Repeating school has no benefit: study August 30, 2006 - 9:44AM Making a student repeat a level at school has no benefit and in fact may do more harm, Australian research shows. The study, by Deakin University's Dr Helen McGrath, also found students who repeated a year were 20 to 50 per cent more likely to drop out, compared to similar students who progressed...
"There may be an occasional student who is the exception, but for most students providing them with more of what didn't work for them the first time around is an exercise in futility," ...
______________________________________________________________
Right. This is why we should expect more from our schools than giving students who did not make it on the first try more of the same. This does not seem like a particularly hard concept.

Art

_______________________________________________________________________ _
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:55:13 -0400
From: "Monty Neill" <monty@fairtest.org>
To: "ARN-L" <arn-l@interversity.org>,
"arn2-strategy" <arn2-strategy@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: education business
Message-ID: <023701c6cd48$236ad0a0$8201a8c0@Monty>

Interesting info on testing and other for-profit aspects of education industry - summarized by ASCD as:
Series: The big business of education
As school enrollments hit record levels and NCLB levies more testing and tutoring requirements, private firms are scrambling for a piece of the $850 billion spent each year on education in the U.S, reports the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Analysts say profitable niches abound in every segment of the lucrative education market. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06242/717293-298.stm

And this week's Ed Week www.edweek.com is an article U.S. Test Developers Cashing IN on Markets Abroad - expansion of US testmakers into Latin America, etc. p. 10.

Monty Neill, Ed.D.
Executive Director
FairTest
342 Broadway
Cambridge, MA 02139
617-864-4810 fax 617-497-2224
monty@fairtest.org
http://www.fairtest.org
Donate: https://secure.entango.com/servlet/donate/MnrXjT8MQqk

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