Re: NCLB on YouTube

[aburke5054@aol.com]

 NCLB is not about eliminating all differences in achievement among children.? How could it be?? It's about getting all children to a finish line that marks the accomplishment of important knowledge and skills.? Every child who crosses the line is a winner and every child wins something by being in the race.? 

Art

 

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To: arn-l@interversity.org
Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 8:41 am
Subject: Re: [arn-l] NCLB on YouTube










It's very misleading to claim that NCLB says anything about closing achievement 
gaps.  Even if somehow, all students, of all races reach the "proficiency" goals 
of their state, a sizable gap could still exist in the average scores.

Think of a race in which all runners eventually reach the finish line.  There 
can still be sizable gaps in their times. 


>From: GERALD BRACEY <gbracey1@verizon.net>
>Date: 2007/09/06 Thu AM 07:52:23 CDT
>To: arn-l@interversity.org
>Subject: Re: [arn-l] NCLB on YouTube

>Thanks Elsa.  In my feedback to the producers, I mentioned the "systems 
>approach" comment, too.
>
>Jerry
>
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>From: "ElsaHaas" <ElsaHaas@si.rr.com>
>To: <arn-l@interversity.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [arn-l] NCLB on YouTube
>
>
>Jerry,
>
>Overall, I liked it.
>
>The sixth-grade girl pauses and looks off at someone/something on the side
>for so long that it might look to some that she's getting a cue for what
>she's going to say next.
>
>I also think that you might need at least one kid who speaks about what it
>feels like to be tested. Some kids throw up over testing. Could you find a
>kid to talk about that, rather than just about whether testing is going to
>prepare kids for the future? That ends up being a speculation (and one that
>might have come to the kid from some adult). The strength of an interview
>with a younger child lies in the "insider's view" they have of reality,
>rather than theory.
>
>You say that there will be more interviews of students in other versions, so
>maybe this is already being thought about.
>
>I also thought there was a mismatch at one point (near the beginning, just
>after you were standing in front of that "little red schoolhouse" - a great
>visual, I thought) between the words on the screen (about the goal of 100%
>proficiency by 2014), and what you were saying at the same time (about the
>goal being to eliminate the achievement gap by 2014). This was just after
>you said something about NCLB being one of the weirdest laws ever.
>
>I think it is truly weird that anyone would ever imagine that every single
>child will be proficient by 2014. I think it's also weird that anyone would
>ever imagine that there will be no more achievement gap by 2014. But the two
>things are different, and I think the first one gets lost because of the
>mismatch.
>
>I especially liked what one woman said about imagining what's going to
>happen when these kids who have grown up learning to fill in the bubbles
>then have to face the real world and think outside of the bubble/box.
>
>Last thing: there was a one-liner about NCLB not being a systems approach to
>solving a systems problem. I don't think most people will know what that
>means (I don't). Maybe what follows this statement explains it by example,
>but I didn't get it.
>
>Elsa Haas
>
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>From: arn-l-owner@interversity.org [mailto:arn-l-owner@interversity.org] On
>Behalf Of GERALD BRACEY
>Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:11 PM
>To: eddra@yahoogroups.com; LiteracyForAll@yahoogroups.com;
>arn-l@interversity.org
>Subject: [arn-l] NCLB on YouTube
>
>There is now a 9:25 video about NCLB at www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTzLILQx3c
>.  It was produced by a Fairfax County teacher, Katie Keier, and a
>videographer friend, Joe Landreth.  Let us know what you think--I'm sure
>constructive feedback will be welcome.  My initial understanding was that it
>was to dispel ignorance about what the law actually said, and I spent my
>time talking about the law's contents.  The video has me talking about AYP,
>100% proficiency, and the choice option, but it seems to me it came out more
>talking about the law's impacts which are not necessarily functions of the
>law's provisions--e.g., test scores arriving late, high performing students
>using the choice option, etc.
>
>Other versions are anticipated which make more use of interviews with
>students.  Katie and Joe are on the EDDRA list so they'll automatically see
>anything that turns up there.  I can relay anything from LFA or ARN.
>
>Jerry
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