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Re: Environmental History / Ancient Greece


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  • Subject: Re: Environmental History / Ancient Greece
  • From: "Jay Ball" <ageeball@gmail.com>
  • Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:23:08 -0400
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Thanks for your note, Cheryll. I guess I should have added to my post that
it was having read Meeker's book that got me asking these sorts of
questions. (As a theatre person, Meeker's book was one of the first works of
ecocriticism that I read.)

All the best,

Jay

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Cheryll A Glotfelty <glotfelt@unr.edu>wrote:

> Jay, If you're interested in the environmental valence of tragedy, Joseph
> Meeker's The Comedy of Survival is a must-read. He assesses the
> environmental impact (if you will) of the comic and tragic modes, with
> in-depth discussion of Greek tragedy.
>
> Cheryll Glotfelty
> Associate Professor, English Department
> University of Nevada, Reno, NV 89557
> (775) 682-6395; FAX (775) 784-6266
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> From: asle-owner@interversity.org on behalf of Jay Ball
> Sent: Wed 9/3/2008 7:02 AM
> To: asle@interversity.org
> Subject: Re: FW: [asle] Environmental History / Ancient Greece
>
>
>
> I'm very grateful to Heather, Chris, Cheryll, Bernard, Anthony, Lisa and
> both Richards for your helpful replies. I know that the word "tragedy" in
> "tragedy of the commons" is only supposed to serve as a metaphor for a
> predictable structural dynamic. However, I've been curious to know if the
> resonance of Hardin's term doesn't have something to do with the
> catastrophism common to both the genre of Greek tragedy and what little I
> know ancient Greek land use, population expansion and crash colonization.
> Thanks to the list, I will now have a lot more to go on.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Jay
>
> School of Drama
> Carnegie Mellon University
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> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Sullivan, Heather <hsulliva@trinity.edu
> >wrote:
>
> > Greetings, ASLE listers:
> >
> > Below are suggestions from my colleagues in classics.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Heather Sullivan
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jenkins, Thomas
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:34 PM
> > To: O'Sullivan, Timothy
> > Cc: Sullivan, Heather
> > Subject: Re: [asle] Environmental History / Ancient Greece
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, The Corrupting Sea by Horden and Purcell is a totally wacky yet
> > weirdly wonderful history of Greece told entirely from the point of view
> > of ecology.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 2, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Timothy O'Sullivan wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Heather,
> >
> > This one springs immediately to mind:
> >
> > Meiggs, Russell.
> > Trees and timber in the ancient Mediterranean world
> > Oxford : Clarendon Press, 1982.
> > HD9765.M47 M44 1982
> >
> > As I recall, he deals with deforestation (he would have to, wouldn't
> > he?).
> >
> > Tom, any other ideas?
> > Tim
> >
> > On , at 2:49 PM, Sullivan, Heather wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom & Tim,
> >
> > Any suggestions for my eco-list?
> >
> >
> >
> > Heather
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: asle-owner@interversity.org
> > [mailto:asle-owner@interversity.org]
> >
> > On Behalf Of Jay Ball
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:48 PM
> >
> > To: asle@interversity.org
> >
> > Subject: [asle] Environmental History / Ancient Greece
> >
> >
> >
> > Could anyone recommend any books or articles on the
> > environmental
> >
> > history of
> >
> > ancient Greece? I'm also interested in the issues of ecological
> >
> > degradation
> >
> > and deforestation in the Mediterranean more generally, as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > Many thanks for your help,
> >
> >
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> >
> > School of Drama
> >
> > Carnegie Mellon University
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